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[–] amio@kbin.social 179 points 9 months ago (37 children)

For starters they keep making mostly the same game over and over. They're essentially doing the Bethesda shtick except their end results are better. Sticking to stuff that can mostly be made in the same engine as the thing you finished 15 minutes ago is going to shave off a lot of time compared to making a new game.

Of course that's not to shit on incremental improvements or engine reuse or anything. That is just sound thinking as long as the games are good.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (15 children)

They also had great success with Sekiro, which was (and still is) very different from their other titles.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social -4 points 9 months ago (12 children)

It really isn't except it has a decent and intelligible story

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I love the Dark Souls games. I use two moves in those games: swing big sword, dodge.

In Sekiro, there were many more moves I was forced to use, with precise timing, and split second reads to know which moves I needed to use. My aging brain cannot do that. So I didn't enjoy Sekiro.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're only forced to use one move: parry. The moves you can't parry, you just dodge. You can finish the game just with that.

Give it a try again! Sekiro is a rhythm game, and when it clicks, the combat becomes one of the most fun of all FromSoft games.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used parry on like 2 bosses across 3 Dark Souls games. And each time it was a pain in the arse.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

There is an art to parrying. It's a deep rabbithole with parrying frames, different weapons being better or worse, and a lot of practice. Parrying in Sekiro is way different than souls parry

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It looks fun as hell if you can get it down, but it was just too difficult for me. I really didn't enjoy dying repeatedly until I figured out the rhythm. The other soulsborne games felt more fair somehow, and often give you a way to make the boss fights significantly easier.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

There’s a candy you can use to reduce posture damage so you can start out just holding block instead of trying to parry. That can make learning attacks and timings much easier.

Almost every mini boss can be backstabbed

Most can be made much easier with the right prosthetic tool

Consider giving it another shot someday!

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's still the same as Dark Souls. Engine wise, it's the same. Someone who made models for Souls, can make models for Sekiro. The debugging tooling is the same, etc etc.

The best example of this is actually Armored Core. They used their engine again, yet the game obviously plays different than anything else they released. And yet, it's the same techstack, the same engine and the same programmers. Nothing changed.

Compare that to the jump from Oblivion to Skyrim, the engine is no longer recognizable. The models need to be of a very different quality. Etc etc.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 9 months ago

To anyone who's played the games it's very evidently exactly the same engine used in Morrowind, running on faster hardware and with less functionality due to it being unable to handle the higher quality graphics. (Morrowind had mostly open cities - except for Vivec - and flying, for instance; later games had to sacrifice those and add more and more loading screens...)

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