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Ubuntu Snap Hate (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by Tekkip20@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I've gathered that a lot of people in the nix space seem to dislike snaps but otherwise like Flatpaks, what seems to be the difference here?

Are Snaps just a lot slower than flatpaks or something? They're both a bit bloaty as far as I know but makes Canonicals attempt worse?

Personally I think for home users or niche there should be a snap less variant of this distribution with all the bells and whistles.

Sure it might be pointless, but you could argue that for dozens of other distros that take Debian, Fedora or Arch stuff and make it as their own variant, I.e MX Linux or Manjaro.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I read a comment on Reddit a while back that pointed out how much of the open source community has no issue hosting projects on GitHub while also lampooning Snap for having a closed-source backend server. However, since Snap (and GitHub) are open source themselves, nothing is stopping curious and concerned users from auditing the codebase or hosting their own servers. I removed Snap from my Ubuntu installation and use Flatpak instead, but I do not hate Snap. And for what it's worth, I always go for the native DEB when possible...

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What? Github is not open source.

And plenty of people have issues with Github: https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/

their entire hosting site is, itself, proprietary and/or trade-secret software

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I really think people get confused between Git, the open source application, and Github the non-open-source online code repository.

Part of the reason they probably think they are one and the same is how often Git is used in command line to clone a Github repository locally.

Gitlab is open source and self-hostable, to my knowledge.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

I heard a good comparison on here a while ago: Github is to Git as Pornhub is to porn.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Gitlab is out, forgejoe is in

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That was the point they were making. GitHub is to git as the snap store is to snap, albeit there are existing alternatives to GitHub.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

The comparison isn't quite right because you can use git with any provider (Github, gitlab, etc), including multiple at once.

On the other hand, snap is hardcoded to only be able to use one store at a time, the snap store. To modify this behaviour, you would have to make changes to the snap client source code.

It's a crucial difference.

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