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[–] frezik@midwest.social 128 points 6 months ago (36 children)

I've said before that the supercharger network is their most important long term asset. They opened up their plug standard, other manufacturers are jumping on board, and they have the largest network that supports all those new EVs.

Only problem is that it's boring, and Elon doesn't like boring. So now here we are.

[–] podperson@lemm.ee 36 points 6 months ago (24 children)

What really baffles me is why he totally ghosted his battery swap station idea. That completely solves the range and charging time issue all in one fell swoop. Demonstrated it on stage even. Guessing it either wasn’t profitable enough for him, not s3xy enough, or he wasn’t smart enough to figure out how to scale it up.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's not that good of an idea in the long run. It was attractive when EVs struggled to have 100mi range and L3 chargers didn't exist. Once batteries got good enough to push 300-400mi and there's plenty of L3 chargers around, it's just not necessary. The range will outlast your bladder.

That's on top of what others have mentioned about how they can get abused. You'll never know if the new battery you're getting is good. Or if the charge station tests it and find it's junk, then they have to do something with it, which increases their costs.

[–] podperson@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. I know cross country road trips isn’t the norm for most, but at the moment, it burns an hour (at least on my car) to recharge if you need to during the middle of a trip that out-distances your car’s range. A quick battery swap would solve that and give you the same ease/downtime as filling up at a gas station. I’d think some people have a hard time swallowing having to wait an hour to fill up if they’re trying to get somewhere.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

10-80% charge time is in the range of 20 minutes. EVs already exist that will get you 4 hours of driving on that. Yes, even in the cold.

This isn't as big a problem in practice as it's made out to be.

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