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>you think euthanizing sick animals is bad?
>PETA euthanizes more than sick animals
>you think PETA doesn't euthanize sick animals?
There isn't a single thing I can say to convince someone who isn't arguing in good faith.
Am I arguing or using the Socratic method?
Have you always felt the Socratic method is bad faith, or just when you already have a strong opinion?
The Socratic method involves asking questions to lead on discussion and participation. You're trying to discourage discussion by putting contributors on the defensive with an ad hominem disguised as a (loaded) question.
So, in fact, you're doing neither.
Nobody is forcing you to be in this conversation, or be on the defensive.
If you can't answer questions that make you uncomfortable to answer, that's something you should reflect on.
I am willing to answer any questions you may have of me.
Again, you're attacking the other person instead of their argument.
It doesn't make your point any stronger. It makes people unfamiliar with debates defensive from being personally attacked, and it makes those familiar with debates realize that they're wasting their time.
Attacking the other person?
Lol, I think you forgot to sign into the other account because this chain is me talking to your pivot account.
But, no, I am not attacking you. i am merely pointing out that you have a formed opinion without being able to answer incredibly simple questions about your stance.
You know that "the other person" can be used in a general sense, right?
Aside, why would I engage in an ernest discussion with someone who doesn't appear willing to accept that the other person in the discussion holds any stance different than the one they are perceived as having.
It would be a waste of my time to take this seriously, and I'm already having fun playing fallacy bingo.
You commonly refer to yourself as "the other person"? Weird, but okay. I will take that at face value.
It only makes logical sense to be against the killing done by others if you yourself have no involvement in killing.
We wouldn't want you to be the pot who called the kettle black.
This is called gish galloping and it's very obnoxious
TIL. Thank you
I think you might need to look up what a Gish gallop is, because you will almost certainly find you have applied it to a situation in which it doesn't belong.
You haven't answered any questions though. How many pets taken and euthanized the same day would be acceptable to you? How many animals that are adoptable, not ill, don't have behavioral problems, and aren't elderly should they be allowed to euthanize? Should they have to retract their ad campaign that ran for years claiming a link between autism and milk or should they be able to quietly redirect it and not confront it because the "science" was almost as laughable as the link between vaccines and autism?
You'll willingly answer, so I am eagerly awaiting answers rather than redirecting or trying to be the Glen Beck of PETA by JAQing off (I'm just asking questions!).
How many healthy pets do they actually euthanize?
Is this something they are regularly doing, or is there one or two cases?
Ah, so you're not willing to answer questions. I don't engage with lying pieces of shit. If you had, you could have changed hearts and minds. Instead you're as worthless as PETA.
Have I told a lie?
quit JAQing off bro
So I haven't told a lie in this conversation?