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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (35 children)

It doesn't help that the vegans are right. The meat industry is a nightmare, terrible for the environment, and pretty bad for our health.

It's insane that most Americans eat meat every day.

If I could put 100% tax on meat tomorrow I would, but that's political suicide, so it'll never happen. It'd be easier to adjust than you think. There are plenty of delicious vegetarian options, and it'd be a lot easier to choose those if they were more common.

I eat meat because it's culturally acceptable, delicious, ubiquitous, and I don't believe I can make a noticeable difference. But that doesn't mean I think it's right.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (34 children)

I don’t believe I can make a noticeable difference.

Not eating meat won't change the systemic problems but it will mean fewer animals will be subject to the industry. Over the course of a lifetime, the number of animals you can save adds up.

Also it's a good habit to transfer thoughts and beliefs into actions.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (33 children)

Not eating meat won't change the systemic problems but it will mean fewer animals will be subject to the industry.

more animals are breed and slaughtered every year than the year before. being vegan has never reduced that

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah no shit, but the number would be even higher if fewer people were vegan.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this can not be proven. counterfactuals cannot be proven at all.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Your honor, it's true that the deceased died of blood loss after I stabbed them, however, the idea that they would've survived had I not stabbed them is a counterfactual and therefore cannot be proven at all."

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

No, it's literally what you said. Is what I described not a counterfactual?

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