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Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

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[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)

This app didn’t get taken down because it was by a “controversial” guy. It got taken down because content in the app encouraged violence and because the app itself was a pyramid scheme (People had to pay $50/month just to use the app, with promises of rewards if they got more people to join).

Google removed the app from their store, too. Yes, you can still probably install it from their website or a third party app store on Android, and yes, it would be great if third party app stores and sideloading existed for iOS (and they kinda do, though they’re very limited) but even if they did exist it would be reasonable to expect every single one of them to refuse to host this app (especially if “hosting” entails accepting payments).

Tate can still host this via the web. He can even build a progressive web app for it. I suspect he’ll run into issues collecting that $50 monthly payment any way other than by crypto, though, since I suspect most payment processors will refuse to work with him.

[–] thecam@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The app was taken down because it had Andrew Tate's name on it, lets not kid ourselves.

Even if you were correct on why the app was taken down due to "it will cause violence", minus well ban all social media apps and messanging apps.

If the app was banned due to it being a scam (which is not the case), that is reasonable to protect users, but still sucks since even if the app was banned with the excuse of it being a scam, iOS users are SOL since there is no alternative way to really install apps on iOS.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If the app was banned due to it being a scam (which is not the case)

The term "scam" is a straw man. "Scam" is subjective, so you could define a scam as "an app that provides no content and steals your money" and conclude that the app in question is not that, and therefore fine.

The main assertion in the article is:

the app deliberately targets young men and encourages misogyny, including members of the app sharing techniques on how to control and exploit women. The firm has also claimed that there is evidence to suggest that the app is an illegal pyramid scheme

[–] thecam@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main assertion in the article is:

It is a Guardian article. Not a trustworthy source, has a strong leftie bias and has been known to dox people in the past.

Therefore, why should I take the article accusations seriously?

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I don't really understand your position.

You're rejecting the quotes from the article on the basis of the publication, suggesting a better accusation would be a "scam", and then refuting that accusation as baseless.

I'm not trying to be an ass, I mean this as kindly as possible, but this is a straw man argument. You should look into logical fallacies. They're well documented tactics for manipulating people and misrepresenting information. Everyone should. It will help you to reason about information and ultimately identify when you're being manipulated.

[–] thecam@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot imagine being blue pilled.

[–] Marruk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm confident that the amount of things you cannot imagine is quite substantial; certainly far more than that of an average person.

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