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What do you want to have in a Lemmy instance? (ponder.cat)
submitted 3 months ago by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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I started up my own instance and now I have realized that there's no reason anyone would join mine instead of any other instance.

That's no good. What neat stuff would the Fediverse like to see in a Lemmy instance?

  • Follow RSS feeds in your Lemmy feed? I have that already, in a way, but it would be nice to be able to do it for any feed automatically without it being clunky.
  • Follow Mastodon users? Or tags?
  • Embedded video? That seems costly.
  • Hackability? The ability to run your own customized front end? Or good scripting features in the browser console?
  • A better looking UI? This one is functional but it's not pretty.
  • Better moderation? I have heard the Lemmy tools aren't that good.
  • Something else?
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[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 3 months ago (9 children)
  • Proof of Humanity. There is some work about using Zero Knowledge Proofs as a way to be able to indicate that the owner of a key can also prove ownership of another set of credentials without having to reveal these credentials to third parties. This would allow us to really get rid of bots and sockpuppets.
  • The ability for users to bring their own cryptographic keys and actor id. This way even if a server goes down people could port their whole account over to a different server.
  • Multi-protocol federation.
  • Get rid of downvotes/upvotes and replace it with multi-dimensional scoring/ranking system.
  • User-defined sorting/ranking. I do not want to completely block people, but I do wish to have a system that could boost/de-emphasize posts by certain people on certain topics, and completely ignore them in others.
  • Cooperative media storage and distribution that could leverage the storage from clients as well as servers, something based on bittorrent.
  • Custom widgets that can be attached to a post/community. For example, I'd like to have a play-by-play tracker for basketball/football games.
  • RDF/Semantic Web descriptors. If people are talking about a TV show, or making a list of PC components that they want to review or anything that can be part of a knowledge graph should be linkable and browsable by a specialized browser.
  • Collaborative lists/articles/posts. With the item above, it would be trivial to create wikipedia-style posts where a community can build their "common knowledge" and would make it easier for newcomers to get general recommendations and/or a sense of the community values.
[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Get rid of downvotes/upvotes

This. I haven't found a way to disable up/downvotes, even just their visibility in the UI. I understand the value of users rating post and comments, however I think the visible metrics turn Reddit and Lemmy alike into competitions for karma points rather than discussion.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, but not just that. For example, the top comment on this thread is just a sarcastic jab at SV startups and not a real answer to the question. This makes it easy to setup a whole comment chain of (imo) completely useless comments and drowns out any chance of a more serious conversation in the context.

This is not to say that I wish to get rid of all funny/casual commentary that might come off in a discussion, I just wish that I could have some form of context.

Some comments could be marked as "forgettable" so that servers could just drop them after a while, others should be saved because they are important as a reference. This is what I mean by "multi-dimensional". I think that downvotes are important to curate "bad content", but it would be even better if people could also signal why/what that comment is bad.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree. A slashdot similar system would be nice

What are tags?

Tags are text labels you can add to a story that help categorize stories by content or category. Clicking the tag icon will open a text field for tagging. Type in a tag, then press the space bar. Repeat for all tags you'd like to add to the story.

Note: Adding the same tag more than once does not increase its weight; once is enough. You might, though, tag a story about Western Digital hard drives "wd," "westerndigital," and "storage," or a story about an MIT programming contest "programming," "competition," and "mit." Tags help sort stories, and help you search for related ones. More tags help!

Everyone can see them! Tags are public and flexible (rather than private and permanent). So one day, we might consolidate and change all "canine" tags to "dog," say, or define new system tags and usurp more namespace. (Don't say we didn't warn you!) Because tags on Slashdot are public, and are used to inform the moderation system, tag abuse can hurt your karma. Please tag in good faith.

The Firehose is powerful viewing tool for Slashdot content, from comments and journal entries to RSS feeds and story submissions. You can filter and interact with the Firehose in a number of ways. The plus/minus box on the left side of each Firehose entry lets you vote on that item. A context menu will appear when you click on the plus or minus, giving you the option of adding certain tags. You can also expand the submission if you'd like to add other tags, such as "northdakota" or "spaceflight." Voting and tagging are helpful; they inform other Firehose users, and help the editors decide which ones make it to the front page.

https://slashdot.org/faq

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 3 months ago

This is a very good idea. Slashdot hit on something very good with their scoring and moderation system, and then the lessons were forgotten in the systems that came after Slashdot.

There are so many small tweaks like this tagging idea that would improve things, that I think the way to do it is a frontend "plugin" system that can accommodate them without it being a big fandango of tweaking the core to include fifty of these little nubbins all over the codebase.

Nothing that's ordained from on high will ever be completely perfect. If you can have a little text box on your custom frontend, where you can tweak your own UI features, and then talk with the instance admin about importing one of those little tweak plugins for the whole site, or for your own community only, that sounds like a huge step forward to me. If you've ever added little tweaks to Wordpress, with the custom CSS boxes or by adding a few lines to functions.php, I envision this being similar.

This is all much more ambitious than I was thinking of when I asked this original question, but it would be a lot of fun to work on. If the result was it going back up into Lemmy, and each instance having its own collection of tweaks and a thriving community of people working on them without needing to disrupt the pace of development on the core, that would be a pretty excellent outcome.

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