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Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Reddit CEO Steve Huffman is standing by Reddit’s decision to block companies from scraping the site without an AI agreement.

Last week, 404 Media noticed that search engines that weren't Google were no longer listing recent Reddit posts in results. This was because Reddit updated its Robots Exclusion Protocol (txt file) to block bots from scraping the site. The file reads: "Reddit believes in an open Internet, but not the misuse of public content." Since the news broke, OpenAI announced SearchGPT, which can show recent Reddit results.

The change came a year after Reddit began its efforts to stop free scraping, which Huffman initially framed as an attempt to stop AI companies from making money off of Reddit content for free. This endeavor also led Reddit to begin charging for API access (the high pricing led to many third-party Reddit apps closing).

In an interview with The Verge today, Huffman stood by the changes that led to Google temporarily being the only search engine able to show recent discussions from Reddit. Reddit and Google signed an AI training deal in February said to be worth $60 million a year. It's unclear how much Reddit's OpenAI deal is worth.

Huffman said:

Without these agreements, we don’t have any say or knowledge of how our data is displayed and what it’s used for, which has put us in a position now of blocking folks who haven’t been willing to come to terms with how we’d like our data to be used or not used.

“[It’s been] a real pain in the ass to block these companies,” Huffman told The Verge.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (32 children)

You think that Reddit didn't already have the previous content saved?

[–] finley@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (18 children)

i went looking for old comments and posts i had made after i overwrote then wiped them. They're still gone. i looked again several months later, and they were still gone.

so, unless reddit did a massive restore of everyone's comments/posts except for my 4 accounts, then i don't believe they did it at all except for a select number of top contributors who deleted their content.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As I said in another comment, I was not suggesting that Reddit would restore your comments to public view.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

there's no evidence to suggest that, either.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Except for incidents like This

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago

There’s no evidence of the contrary either.

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