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My father told me he wanted to make USB flash drives of all the scanned and digitized family photos and other assorted letters and mementos. He planned to distribute them to all family members hoping that at least one set would survive. When I explained that they ought to be recipes to new media every N number of years or risk deteriorating or becoming unreadable (like a floppy disk when you have no floppy drive), he was genuinely shocked. He lost interest in the project that he’d thought was so bullet proof.

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[–] Toes@ani.social 54 points 2 months ago (38 children)

Yeah if you're looking for long term it needs to be archival media. Many people think the flash drive will hold it forever but they are potentially the most fickle.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago (28 children)

But what actually is "archival"?

Like, what technology normal person has access to counts at least as enthusiast level archival?

Magnetic tape, optical media, flash, HDD all rot away, potentially within frighteningly short timeframes and often with subtle bitrot.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Like, what technology normal person has access to counts at least as enthusiast level archival?

Cloud storage? Store it on 2 different providers like B2 and iDrive or something, pretty low complexity.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is it? It's rather expensive and would you really know, if the data is gone or corrupted?

You'd have to download every single file in certain intervals and check it. That's not really low complexity.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good backup software will just do that as part of its thing, like Restic for example.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And who does that?

I think you don't really get my point. I'm not arguing that there are no ways to archive data. I'm arguing that there are no technologies available for average Joe.

It is hardly a good strategy to basically set up half a datacenter at home.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah that's fair.

Common cloud storage such as google drive should be pretty resilient for the average person, data stored there is replicated in multiple data centers and verified with checksums, and it provides a trashcan and versioning in case of accidental deletion.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I've got photos in Flickr dating from 1999 onwards. Ten thousand or so of them, and a couple of the early ones are now corrupted.

But they are my "other backup" for Google photos so I don't mind too much. I also have a USB Blu-ray drive at home that I use to periodically burn M-Discs that I hand out to a few relatives.

That's about as good as I can conveniently do for backup, and it's probably better than the single-point-of-failure box of negatives that my parents have in their cupboard.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have to hope neither goes out of business either.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

That's why you have 2, there's no solution for long term storage that requires zero checking on things that I can think of.

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