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[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not illegal, but the ISPs are seemingly under no obligation to give you those details. In Germany, there’s the “freedom of routers” embedded in the telco law. So they HAVE to give you everything you need to get your custom router online via their wire/fibre.

Bridge mode is just using the ISPs router and bridge that into your router. It’s not the same - you still need the ISP’s access device instead of just yours.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not illegal, but the ISPs are seemingly under no obligation to give you those details. In Germany, there’s the “freedom of routers” embedded in the telco law. So they HAVE to give you everything you need to get your custom router online via their wire/fibre.

OIC, so, same as here. Germany seems to be having pretty well made laws in these cases.

Bridge mode is just using the ISPs router and bridge that into your router. It’s not the same - you still need the ISP’s access device instead of just yours.

Except that it is a layer 2 bridge and I couldn't connect to the network directly, either way, because their line is copper ^[] and consumer routers/modems are usually RJ45/RJ11.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See, in Germany you can buy your own cable modem or fibre endpoint and connect that to the copper wire/fibre line.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 2 months ago

I feel like we can do the same in other places too.
It just doesn't make much sense for me to buy one of those, considering I don't expect to be using a copper endpoint anywhere else I go.
I probably will get my own Fiber modem when viable (as in, I get a provider that doesn't force their own modem on me).

The major Fibre player here, requires use of their modem, of which, even the WiFi password can only be changed using their Android app. Said app connects to the internet and most probably tells their systems the new password to change to (which would of course, be in plain text), which then remotely changes the WiFi password.
Most probably, other major ones do the same.

There are some smaller players (probably Tier2/3 ISPs), which would let us have our own modems after enough effort, so I'd probably go with one of those.