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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 133 points 1 month ago (18 children)

...Google started adding links to archived websites in the Wayback Machine

They better be compensating it..

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 60 points 1 month ago (16 children)

I don't agree. Free linking has always been a vitally important part of the open internet. The principle that if I make something available on a specific URL, others can access it, and I don't get to charge others for linking to a public URL is one of the core concepts of the internet itself.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 152 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Google killed off their own cached pages last month and they're now using IA as a replacement. Free linking is definitely important, but this is Google we're talking about, and them using IA to save money - this feels a lot more exploitative if Google isn't funding them in some way.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you're both right. Anyone should be able to link to an IA page, but Google basically was doing the same thing as IA with their cached pages. Now they've gotten rid of that service and are simply relying on IA to take all of the load that they had. I think they should help fund IA to compensate for the extra load.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree they should. But I also agree they shouldn't be required to. And if they don't, that we should just live with it as the lesser of two evils.

[–] RyeBread@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would argue regulation should come with (and typically be proportional to) scale. Google as an organization operates at an enormous scale. The scale of the amount links replaced with IA links will be large. The scale in amount in operational costs transferred to another organization is obviously worth it to Google. The sheer scale of everything and everyone involved should require Google to pay Internet Archive. In a decent world that is...

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I don't entirely disagree, but I think defining much of that in effective legal terms is going to be virtually impossible. And I'm super-wary of anything that says someone can't link to something.

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