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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Valve did it first, but to be fair, they had a slightly wider net of just King County courts in general.

I fucking hate Musk, but its interesting to compare and contrast the responses here:

Valve: So amazing and pro-consumer, they got rid of forced arbitration!

Xitter: Is this even legal??

I mean, what Musk is doing is arguably much more insidious because his company isn't actually in that courts district, while Valve is firmly in King County (Bellevue). Still, curious to see such strongly different responses.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

People don't care about facts, but feelings. Valve executives don't give a shit about people either and Valve is extremely anti-consumer half of the time, but people love them because feelings.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The number of people who don't realize that half the time Valve has done anything pro-consumer is because they were forced to do so to comply with laws is too damn high. They're definitely not doing most of it out of the kindness of their hearts.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's your take on what valve has done for linux gaming and how much off it is open source?

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's purely profit driven. The biggest difference to other corporations is that they're privately owned, meaning they can pursue long-term strategies instead of short-term ones. Publicly traded companies have to pursue short term strategies because otherwise investors get itchy and want to sell. Doing something that costs money and will yield results in ten years is a big no-no for publicly traded companies.

Everyone and their mother who makes any computer has to pay money to Microsoft because they put Windows on it. There are only a few outliers, most notably Apple and a few vendors who put Linux or no OS in there.

Valve doesn't pay them shit, meaning they can sell the device cheaper, thus getting more customers. That's the immediate gain. When you provide a gaming OS that you want to offer to others, you're also the one getting paid for providing support. That's the long term profit.

And through it all, as a nice bonus, they stopped being reliant on a single vendor and gained unbelievably great PR from a group of gamers.

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