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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

TIL this fuckface has an online university

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago

This is a scammer's goldmine.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 27 points 14 hours ago

Jesus Christ he has 800,000 users. That's so depressing.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago

800,000 lusers*

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 67 points 23 hours ago

”Money making is a skill,” the website states. “We will teach you how to master it.”

step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.

there is no step 2

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

According the "hustler's university 4.0" website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)

Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it's not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I'll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it's not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

It's apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there's apparently a hard sell to "commit" to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won't let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that's a sacred vow, bro, you can't violate that, bro.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Yes, we have failed far more than that.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even think it's Andrew Tate specifically and I think that's a big problem.

I'm in my early 30s and grew up being 'the tech generation', adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something's and even teens and they've surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.

Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they 'like it'.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don’t forget easily manipulated

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

and probably broke, considering that these are specifically those who missed payments

[–] chevy9294@monero.town 8 points 23 hours ago

Thats the important part ;)

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 218 points 1 day ago (9 children)

800,000 people fell for that scam? Fuck me, that’s a lot of stupidity..

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At 50$ a pop it's 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

it's closer to 100k, and it's 50$/month so totals closer to 5M/month

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!

Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).

So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.

I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Maybe most of these are bots? And maybe paid by the owner to generate traffic?

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Remember Trump University? Imagine putting that on your resume.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who is this Andrew Tate guy? By his name, I can only assume he is some kind of potato

[–] Matty@lemmy.autism.place 28 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

He's one of those "Alpha Male" influencer who's extremely misogynistic

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

That is correct.

No notes.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

Wonder how many were bots, like Ashley Madison, that exist to pump numbers and increase engagement

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 37 points 1 day ago

Read the article, it's so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

800.000 people?

Talking bullshit seems to pay very good

yes not everyone was paying, but still:

If accurate, the site at minimum would generate upwards of $5,650,000 every month.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.

The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate's fanbase is mostly younger. I'm sure there is some overlap but probably small.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My friend's brother almost fell victim to this cult. If he's anything to go by most members will be vulnerable idiots.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It's really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago
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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 19 hours ago

I really, really hope they used a backdoor.

[–] Icecreamface@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It’s hard not to feel bad for aimless young men who get tricked by this guy.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I take as a positive point that I had no idea who this Andrew taint guy was before the he was arrested or whatever the fuck.

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