General_Effort

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Hmm. It was a big issue at the time. In truth, I'm really not sure how it works in France. Anyway, the big fight going on is really about minimal previews. Unfortunately, there is no disinterested reporting on the issue. The media is very much profit-maximizing.

The recitals aren't part of the law, but should only guide the interpretation. Also, this is a directive. That means it directs the member states to make law, but has no direct effect, as such.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

My brother in Lemmy, this is what stopping Big Tech looks like.

Europe made laws that say that Google and others need to pay if they want to link to EU publishers. Well, maybe the price they are asking is not worth it.

You're right about the firewall energy, but that's simply how these laws work. The point of copyright, as well as age verification and other such laws, is to control who may access certain information.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because that's one key feature in the "2019 European directive adopted into French law". It's also what the Google fine was about.

Also, X isn't really suitable for copy/pasting entire articles, like is done on lemmy. So that's probably not it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Misunderstanding. The news media is suing X. I pointed out what news media does without paying.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They’ll play whack a mole for decades, just like they have been for P2P file sharing.

Some differences to that, though.

  • Downloaders can be prosecuted. That raises the question of what happens to kids or their parents who use non-compliant sites.

  • Blocked servers are inaccessible to adults, too, which raises freedom of information issues. These servers don't contain illegal information, after all.

  • Large scale piracy is illegal pretty much everywhere, meaning that the industry can go after the operators and get the servers offline. Not so here.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You think people should pay X to link to tweets? Or generally for quotes?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ok. Smaller platforms like this here lemmy server don't do anything because it's expensive, or they are ethically opposed. They have no business in Australia and fines can't be collected. Australian kids (and adults who want to be anonymous, or don't like the government-mandated changes) flock to these platforms.

What now?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

More like: They want to sell the cake and be paid when you recommend it to others.

Mind that news media don't pay when they link to social media, quote people, or even report what other media has reported. The real question is, if this law has any beneficial effect for society. I don't see how.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oh, he's saying that snippet view lets us have sites like lemmy. I didn't get how cracking down on that would help lemmy.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It should only show the title and the link imo.

That's infringement in Europe, which makes it effectively a link tax.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Huh? How you mean?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Not quite. You can't turn movies into books or games, or vice versa, for example. Sometimes such projects get stuck in limbo. Or think about how everyone hated the final season of Game of Thrones. Can't do anything about that in our life times.

 

We can only expect these trends to continue to worsen, and many works to be lost well before they enter the public domain.

We are on the eve of a revolution in preservation, but “the lost cannot be recovered.” We have a critical window of about 5-10 years during which it’s still fairly expensive to operate a shadow library and create many mirrors around the world, and during which access has not been completely shut down yet.

If we can bridge this window, then we’ll indeed have preserved humanity’s knowledge and culture in perpetuity. We should not let this time go to waste. We should not let this critical window close on us.

Let’s go.

  • Anna and the team
 

This was published in November 2023, but may be of general interest now, because of current events.

 

The key problem is that copyright infringement by a private individual is regarded by the court as something so serious that it negates the right to privacy. It’s a sign of the twisted values that copyright has succeeded on imposing on many legal systems. It equates the mere copying of a digital file with serious crimes that merit a prison sentence, an evident absurdity.

This is a good example of how copyright’s continuing obsession with ownership and control of digital material is warping the entire legal system in the EU. What was supposed to be simply a fair way of rewarding creators has resulted in a monstrous system of routine government surveillance carried out on hundreds of millions of innocent people just in case they copy a digital file.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16327419

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16324188

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