bartolomeo

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bernie Sanders has been saying for 30 years that the bill is too damn long! Representatives get very limited time to read bills so they usually don't and just vote along party lines. This is a form of deception and it's intentional.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if the Arab spring could have happened without Twitter.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or be around Catholics.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 8 months ago

Already in the 1920s the Labor movement disregarded its socialist roots and concentrated on building the nation by constructive action. According to Tzahor its leaders did not "abandon fundamental ideological principles".[15] However, according to Ze'ev Sternhell in his book The Founding Myths of Israel, the labor leaders had already abandoned socialist principles by 1920 and only used them as "mobilizing myths".

From the page Dataprolet linked.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 8 months ago

Fucking hell I didn't know it was that bad!

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks for finally putting up a link. It doesn't mention anything about Zionism, though, but a few links in it does say that

Zadoc Kahn presented the German Jewish philanthropist Baron Maurice de Hirsch with the project of setting up a Jewish settlement in Argentina, before JCA was created in 1891. Theodor Herzl considered it expensive and unrealistic. In 1896, when Hirsch died, the association owned a thousand square kilometers of land in the country on which lived a thousand households, the “Jewish gauchos”. It focused on agricultural settlements in Argentina until East European Jews were forbidden to emigrate there. In 1920, 150,000 Jews lived in Argentina[8] and new settlements appeared: (Lapin, Rivera), Entre Ríos (San Gregorio, Villa Domínguez, Carmel, Ingeniero Sajaroff, Villa Clara, and Villaguay),[9] and Santa Fe (Moisés Ville) (about 64% Jews lived in Entre Ríos.)[10]

Please remember that Jewish immigrants != Zionism and that Zionism is not the same a Judaism.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 8 months ago

Of those that came in contact with Europeans yes, I think so, but I'm not sure how, for example, the Lakota people came to be on the land they were before they came in contact with Europeans.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thanks for the additional context.

Well, about Ariel Sharon (from Wikipedia)

An official enquiry found that he bore "personal responsibility" for the Sabra and Shatila massacre of Palestinian refugees, for which he became known as the "Butcher of Beirut" among Arabs. He was subsequently removed as defense minister.

And Begin

was described by the British government as the "leader of the notorious terrorist organisation".

And there was a famous open letter published (the one signed by Einstein, among others) that

described Begin's Herut party as "terrorist, right-wing chauvinist organization in Palestine,"[34] "closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties" and accused his group (along with the smaller, militant, Stern Gang) of preaching "racial superiority" and having "inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community".

And those guys held the highest government office of Israel! It might be weird but it's not uncommon, especially if you look into other government posts too. Like I said, the more you look into it the worse it gets.

Edit: another example

In 1915, Pinhas Felix Rosenblüth, who rose to be Israel's first Justice Minister, wrote in a field report on Ostjuden published in Der Jüdische Student that the great lesson for young Jewish Zionists fighting on the eastern front, on experiencing delusions at what they observe of Jewish life there, was that Palestine was one large "institute for the fumigation of (all) Jewish vermin" (Große Entlausungsanstalt für alles jüdische Ungeziefer).

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Stop deflecting. It seems like you don't have any answers.

Spain had no right to colonize what is now Argentina. Stealing land is wrong, genocide is wrong. These are not difficult concepts and they apply to everyone.

Still waiting to hear about Zionists planning to establish Israel in Argentina.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They also considered Argentine, for example.

Is that so? What pretext would they have had for stealing land in Argentina?

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you, I didn't know that.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Vermin Supreme is also (still) in the race.

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