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How should one access their servers when in China if at all? (lemmy.world)
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Some people my server admin uncle included believe that bringing any device to China automatically compromises it even if you reinstall a new OS. Is this warranted as some random person?

Can I go to my public sites and/or VPN into my servers?

Edit: I go there all the time. Also, I can take these precautions but I can’t expect my family to take them. What about family members phones?

A lot of great replies, thank you! Would love the read more specifics so I can know exactly the threats and my actions

Also, this is not an anti-China post. My field is Chinese related. Just learning more about the hosting side :)

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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, no, not really. They are absolutely able and willing to confiscate your devices at any time once you're on Chinese soil, and once you've lost physical control, that's the end of trust for that device. Even beyond that, it's not unheard of for there to be vulnerabilities in Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc that make your device susceptible to wireless attacks. IMO it's not worth the risk.

Here is just one example of this type of thing uncovered by The Guardian, New York Times, and others in a joint investigation: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/02/chinese-border-guards-surveillance-app-tourists-phones

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I know both Australia and UK have laws that allow border to take and copy your phones, laptops and storage devices. It's not unusual.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most countries give customs and border agents broad latitude to do stuff like that. I've had it happen in Vietnam, the US, and Turkey, among others.

Burners, all the way

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Agree - better safe to not risk it when crossing borders. Even if you don't have anything incriminating your identity can be stolen and used.