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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (43 children)

Funny, I was just telling @Cowbee about how the tankies I see on here are insufferable & impossible to converse with.

But I'll bite. First of all, I don't appreciate the strawmen. I'm not saying that there is a lot of tankies, nor that they are here now suddenly. I'm not denying that US/Western propaganda doesn't exist, nor that it's dangerous and pervasive.

I'm just saying that I, myself, in my own experience, have seen people shilling for China or even Russia, acting like it's a fucking utopia. Russia an oligarchy, just with a different structure than most Western countries. China is a government that rules over billions of people. That is, by definition, evil. No amount of America Bad makes China or Russia good.

In terms of propaganda sources, for example just take a look at Russia Today.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (13 children)
  1. Nobody believes Russia is a Utopia.

  2. Nobody believes the PRC is perfect, but on the right track, and especially nice in Tier 1 and 2 cities.

  3. The CPC has over 90% support, the fact that China has a government does not mean that is "evil."

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (12 children)

90% support makes the whole thing more suspicious to me than anything.

I'm sure a lot of the policy that the CCP has put forward are great, especially if compared to the US counterparts, but that doesn't justify violence and oppression.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Widespread public support for a government is alien to the mind of the liberal

I think I haven't made myself clear, I don't think the number is made up.

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