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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Taiwan and Hong Kong ARE China

Imperialism much?

China is improving along those lines, while the US is rapidly regressing

That's fair, but it's once again an argument based entirely on comparing China to the US. The US being bad doesn't make China good. To get back to my original argument, I'm just saying that the word 'tankie' refers to China or Russia simps. There is no nation in this world worth simping for.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Imperialism much?

It is imperialism to let proxy governments for the UK and US maintain a colonial foothold in China actually.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

So the Taiwanese all desperately want to join the DPRC? Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation. Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn't magically make it okay

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn’t magically make it okay

No they just installed a friendly neocolonial government. Jesus Christ do some basic investigation. If the British invaded part of your hometown and installed a puppet government, would you call it imperialism for it to be taken back by your town?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

by my town no. By another country overseas, yes

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So your argument is the geographical boundaries mean when a country is split it is imperialism to unite it again?

Imagine if the confederacy retreated to the keys islands, that's sort of the level of ridiculous here. The right wing losers of a civil war retreated to an island that was and is considered part of the country.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would go even further. If a country exists and everybody has a national identity, all happy citizens. Then one region decides to become separatist. If the rest of the country doesn't let them separate, I would qualify that as imperialism as well.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Have you read anything on what imperialism actually is?

I would suggest reading Lenin's "Imperialism"

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