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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 27 points 16 hours ago (14 children)

Unfortunately the people's front of Mastodon defederated from the Mastodon People's front.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (12 children)

This is EXACTLY what will happen. Federation will just mean "fuck you, I'll go make my own instance since you don't 100% agree with me" creating splintered echo chambers that accomplish nothing because they fundamentally lack the ability to work with others. Federation will absolutely not lead the rebellion.

Just look how many Lemmy varients there already are. In the first few months we already had Kbin, Mastadon, Lemmy(and all of it's instance variations) and then Kbin even split and also became Mbin as well(which was literally "I don't like how they're running Kbin and they won't do what I want, so I'm starting my own" by user Melroy). Remember how the first drama was "which instances should we block on our instance?" on pretty much every single location? How everyone quickly set out to make a name for themselves by which communities they filtered out? How we didn't even make it a month before instances were defederating each other?

Time and time again humans blame the tools they use instead of reflecting and seeing that the tool wasn't the cause, humanity is. This is how humanity acts. We're tribal by nature. This is what we do. You're not gonna just fix that with some new software. It'll take cultural change on a grand scale.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

The platform splits literally don’t matter.

  1. That’s the point of open source, being able to make your own fork.

  2. The backend is AP not Lemmy, Kbin, mastodon, or piefed

The fragmented ecosystem of ideas doesn’t really exist except in a few servers such as beehaw, lemmygrad, and hexbear. Beehaw and hexbear don’t even care about federation.

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