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[–] MTLion3@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Raise your hands if you’re shocked. Literally nobody should raise their hands

[–] sousmerde_retardatr@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If the most recent death toll wasn't enough, here's something else showing that they don't really care about keeping an appearance, as well as another U.N. school, i don't know what to say or do, everyone knows that they won't destroy "Hamas" :

If their goal was only to send a message, then there's no point to be that extreme, the only reason left that i can see is that they want to keep the Gaza Strip, it's always a bet but they considered that they'll be allowed to(, in which case their security would indeed be increased by getting rid of all palestinians).
Their neighbours would have to be quite desperate to think that embracing Israel and the west is still their best option, but if they do it'd probably be for economic reasons, and/or perhaps fears of retaliations, i.d.k., we'll see how it'll evolve in the future, but i can't believe that they would kill all of these people and destroy everything without a real goal, sending a pointless message isn't one, nor is the unrealistic aim of destroying "Hamas", i find it hard to imagine them simply going back to their side as if they accomplished something by pointlessly mass murdering thousands of childrens&humans on the other side of the wall, awful that this senseless option of a useless massacre is the most desirable.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Neither random tweets, nor Reutir seem like a good sources, take a look at Reutir's "about us" page.

I wouldn't be surprised if they annex Gaza, at least the north part. Bibi says he wants security control over it...

i can’t believe that they would kill all of these people and destroy everything without a real goal

They say they're there to depose Hamas, I'm not sure why you say it's unrealistic. Game theory could support a harsh response, imposing a high cost should anyone consider future attacks against Israel's civilians. Netanyahu is very unpopular right now so it could also be a political move to appease voters who want some revenge/justice/catharsis.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, bombing people is notoriously good at deterring further political violence (/s obviously).

What do you call collective punishment again? A War Cream? No that's not right ...

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's called war between nations, asymmetrical war but war nonetheless. They're not starving out Gaza and demanding civilians bring them hamas, they're going in there themselves.

If Gaza surrenders then terms like war crimes for collective punishment start making sense. Right now they have their own government which happens to be comprised of belligerent terrorists. Israel isn't leaving until that's no longer the case.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Right now they have their own government which happens to be comprised of belligerent terrorists.

Hard to be belligerent when you're under a blockade/military occupation (which is BTW an act of war).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Their neighbours would have to be quite desperate to think that embracing Israel and the west is still their best option, but if they do it’d probably be for economic reasons, and/or perhaps fears of retaliation

Not quite. Israel managed to get the Arab states on their side, and the US is helping using aid (this is why Egypt is helping Israel in its blockade of Gaza, for instance). Arab leaders aren't victims of an oppressive international order; they're willing traitors.

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