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[–] snownyte@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

So, okay.

Let's say these film studios DO get 'permission' or 'access' of these IPs. Haven't we already proven in the court of law that IP Address does not equal a person? How come that is? Well, it's because people can hide under VPNs, they could use proxies, they could use open wi-fi, they can change their address by ISP request .etc

They aren't assigned permanent IPs and they aren't tied to their IPs through identity.

This whole effort is just a waste of their time, proving once again, that they're desperate for anything.

On the other hand, the r/piracy subreddit is full of entitled jackasses who pick you apart for stupid arbitrary reasons. I've posted news posts on there before as a means to inform the pirating community as to what to look for in case things could go wrong in the future, as a lead. And any time, people kept commenting like "WHUT DUS DIS HAVE TU DU WITH PIWACY?!" every fucking time.

I'd spell it out for them, I get downvoted, I get my post reported and it's removed. Seriously, fuck all of those e-begging pieces of shit.

[–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IPs alone aren't enough. IPs tied with usernames can be a lot more compelling.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Legally, not really. A username is also not a person.

This is a fishing expedition by the producers, nothing more.

From the article:

Another reason Reddit refuses to comply with the film producers' request is that “none of the posts depicted in Exhibit A to the subpoena appear to relate to movies that we understand are the subject of" the copyright infringement claims.

The users made no reference to pirating IP owned by the producers.

[–] 520@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Legally, not really. A username is also not a person.

True, but when tied to an IP address known to be used by a suspected person, it can be used as evidence.

Also if the Reddit account is old, there's a good chance they provided at least one piece of identifying info that further ties that account to a target.

It's not definitive but it is a lot harder to toss out

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

True, but when tied to an IP address known to be used by a suspected person, it can be used as evidence.

Evidence of what?

That someone was making shit up on reddit? That is all that it proves.

It proves nothing else.

It does not prove that what was written is true.

It does not prove who wrote the comment.

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