No, form an ex Soviet satellite state. Been Ukraine a dozen times - typical eastern European shithole, worse off than my place tho. Been two or three times to Russia and that's a whole different story... Had a gun held to my head by FSB (while they were stealing our camera), was offered to be shot on the internal border by the soldiers another time. Stayed at Vladikavkaz and Moscow and do appreciate the warm cyberpunk-postapocalyptic vibe. Meet the most broken and ethically corrupt people Ive seen in quite a few years of travels (and I've been living for most of the last 15 years with Bealarusians and Russians who escaped that). Altogether a lovely place, but would prefer it doesn't visit my country again, its shit enough as it is.

And you? Been there, or do you only gaggle RT and believe what the TV told you?

edit: had to correct mobile-typed gibberish.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (14 children)

That's a whole lot of words to say "capitalist Russia sucks in the same ways as every other place we've destabilized, and I have done no inquiry into the causality behind why because it confirms my priors to simply believe that "Russians" (which russians?) are just ontologically bad somehow"

Granting your nazi ass a seriousness it doesn't deserve for a second to talk to the other libs, this is where nationalism brain fails as a way of viewing the world. All you can talk about is Russia this and Ukraine that, as if we're talking about hive minds. All liberals do this, implying a unity that doesn't exist to paper over the reality of class warfare that actually drives these wars. As long as your analysis is built on assumptions of countries as single unified beings (a fairy tale for children) you will always fail to grasp the real causes of state actions.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -4 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Nah, I'm just pointing out it's a deeply corrupt, deeply violent authoritarian state. Been to China, been to some "3rd world" countries, and my own was a bloody neo-lib laboratory on the verge of collapse for most of my youth years and it's still all very different from Russia. Ukraine is very much an effect of destabilization efforts, that I could easily agree. But Russia? It had a system that it's leaders run to the ground themselves, a system that starved the "breadbasket" of Europe, and that went bankrupt despite having every possible resource earth could give. In the process it also destroyed the humanity of it's loyal subjects and corrupted the rest of forced them to run. Maybe it's just me, but it would seem to be the theme of any Russian counter-culture text and song over the lat 40 years as well, have a song, or another one. And now it has a government that reignites old nationalist and threatens to either invade or nuclear annihilate my country about every month (in voices of state figures, not some randos).

Fan fact in calling me a nazi in defense of Russia (apart from the fact I'm a well known antifa organiser); a family member was in the military intelligence (of the underground "Home Army") over WW2. He took part in some wild missions, like obtaining V2 rocket and delivering it to allies (as the Soviets were still cooperating with Nazis, would have be closer...). The guy went through Warsaw Uprising, the biggest antifascist uprising of WW2 (and arguably the most mindless suicide attack on nazis at a country level scale). But he survived both that and the concentration camp afterwards. And than he barely survived half a year of torture in soviet run prison. He did so only, as they never figured out his rank, he'd be shot as all other officers were. Never recovered from what they did to him tho. Wasn't the gestapo, wasn't plain fighting in a guerilla warfare against the nazis for over 5 years, it was the commissars that got him. Impressively that's the type of "anti-nazism" you favor, still.
If only there was a term for believing everyone that doesn't share your exact vision of the world is an enemy to be dehumanized and destroyed...

So anyway - fuck you, and enjoy the rest of the evening in your own shit. I'm off for a walk in a lovely snow covered hills.

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is some professional level obliviousness, willful ignorance, and weaponized misunderstanding on display. Bravo.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, your right. I must stand corrected; by the time Polish underground went V2 shopping Soviets were not best friends with Nazis anymore.

[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I admire your continued professionalism

[–] harcesz@szmer.info -3 points 6 days ago

What are you referring to, exactly?

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