Liberals are "the right" and they sure as hell don't believe 75% of the same things as leftists. Leftists in the west also don't really have the power to keep liberals out of power, hence why liberals have consistently been the only ones in power for decades. Liberals on the other hand, absolutely do have the power to keep leftists out, and they will go as far as allying with fascists to murder leftists in their beds.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -3 points 6 hours ago (10 children)

Liberalism is literally and historically where the left begins. The right is authoritarianism and the left is liberalism to anarchism. Liberals are not leftists but it is a signof a distinct lack of education in political philosophy to claim liberalism as a right wing ideology.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Liberalism didn't exist for most of history, so trying to invoke "history" to argue that liberalism has some kind of timeless and eternal claim to being on the left is unconvincing. Yes, liberalism was the left in the eighteenth century, but we're in the twenty first century.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The division of political ideologies into left and right derives from the French Parliament which had the monarchists on the right and the liberals on the left.

Every reference to right and left stems from this so yes in fact Liberalism has always been where the left starts even if liberals are nit leftists because the political left is anti-authoritarian.

The binary has not changed and I promise you any claim ypu make to the contrary is going to be mired in euro-centric beliefs.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I always try to tell the Marxists this, but they always come up with some dumb rebuttal.

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