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[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I really wanna hear what the proposal is for removing "unqualified" jobs en masse without implementing universal basic income.

The low pay and bad conditions of "unqualified" jobs often gets excused because they, allegedly, are "stepping stones", a means of sustaining oneself while working towards more specialized careers.

If you destroy a significant amount of those positions, where does that leave those people? Are we so drunk on cyberpunk-esque lust of AI evolution that we are fine eliminating the means of entry to society for so many?

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The solution is - instead of rejecting technology, which isn't going anywhere and will only progress and can't be stopped, because under capitalism it will lead to workers starving - we reject capitalism.

It's literally the only way that would actually prevent people from suffering (and significantly help the planet, too).

https://www.globallearning-cuba.com/blog-umlthe-view-from-the-southuml/marx-on-automated-industry

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/18/fully-automated-luxury-communism-robots-employment

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that humans are really bad at caring for unproductive people. If you use wealth generated by natural resources as a proxy for wealth generated by robot labor, humans have a bad record of distributing the material wealth.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

humans are really bad at caring for unproductive people.

That's a current, not fundamental, observation.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 10 months ago

On the family level, you see some supporting of other family members. However, it becomes a lot harder as you go beyond people's immediate kin.

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