I'm suggesting that the idea of creating a global credit union within the boundaries set by Capitalism, and carrying it to fruition, is far more difficult than revolution. You're asking the absolute most wealthy individuals to sit by and watch their wealth dry up and to do nothing about it.

I think you should read the essay I linked.

[–] fakir@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Okay, at least we're talking about execution now. I'll read the essay, but like unix and fediverse and credit unions exist right now and capitalists can't stop them. They can only compete with them in the free market. They certainly won't be able to stop them once they get even bigger and more mainstream.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We were always talking about execution. FOSS is regularly undermined and Credit Unions are almost always more local than otherwise.

[–] fakir@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying the fediverse can't outgrow Reddit because it's FOSS and not corporate controlled? I'm saying it will and there's nothing Reddit can do about it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why?

[–] fakir@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure why what? Btw I found this to add to the discussion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpR41pRdMA - it seems market socialism is compatible with Marxism - markets existed before capitalism and will exist in market socialism too, while planning could be a mix of central and local.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think FOSS and Lemmy in general will overtake Reddit?

Either way, as for Wolff, Marxists don't say you can't have coops in Socialism, I explained earlier how we could have them in Socialism, Marxists however believe revolution is easier and still necessary than peacefully asking the ruling class to watch as their Capital gets wrested from them.

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