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[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (8 children)

That's not at all what I picked up from it. Could you give an example?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I mean, the space marines are genetically engineered soldiers who are locked into their roles they inherited from the primearch who's genetic ancestry they are from, all of which were crafted based on the genetically superior being of the emperor. The eldar and orcs are literally bio-engineered weapons weapons of a race that were basically gods. The Tau have a lot of layers racial hierarchy, bio-engineering, and similar levels of eugenics stuff going on. The tyranids basically just consumer biomass to filter for genes that can benefit their race and incorporate the new genetic data. I mean, unless you didn't pay any attention to the game lore, I really don't know how you missed all this. Like, this is the core of the game lore.

Beyond that GW have straight said that each faction is a caricature of some form of extreme ideology. The imperium are basically theocratic space nazis, the orcs are pretty much how the classical empires, or something like that imperium, see less developed human groups, the barbaric hordes. Etc.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The space marines regularly have groups that splinter off from their ideology (soul drinkers) or renounce it entirely (see chaos), last I knew the dark Eldar are the ones who got corrupted by a chaos God but the craft world Eldar weren't "created by a deity", the orks are space fungus that have a psychic connection which creates their deities of Gork and Mork.

I can see how it can be interpreted that way and the gene seed is a really good point but I'm having a hard time making all the other connections. Even the inquisition has tons of characters that either change their ideology or side entirely.

[–] Comrade_Spood@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Aeldar (along with the predecessor to the orks, the krorks) were created by the Old Ones to fight the necrontyr/necrons and the C'tan during the War in Heaven.

Also whether or not characters or legions deviate from the Imperium's ideology is unimportant as they are still supporters of a theocratic, xenophobic, authoritarian, ultra-militaristic, and ultimately fascist regime. This sort of argument that the Space Marines and such aren't fascists because they split away from the broader Imperium ideology is like when Nazis try to argue that the Wehrmacht were made up of average soldiers so not all of them were Nazis. Its irrelevant, they are still fighting to support a fascist regime which makes them a fascist. The only times Space Marines have ever actually split enough from the imperium to reliquish their loyalty to it is when they end up swapping to Chaos (which is just as bad, if not worse). My favorite faction, the Red Corsairs, being a perfect example of this.

Also the Orks are a charicature and parody of british hooligan culture.

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