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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (31 children)

Rent apartments. Own houses.

*Since some people really need every combination addressed: Rent/own apartments. Own houses.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Houses are pretty terrible for a multitude of factors:

  • urban sprawl
  • congestion
  • pollution
  • high cost public works
  • low income for public bodies doing those works
  • environmental erosion
  • flood protection

We should be building apartments that everyone can own, live and be happy in. It shouldn’t be reserved for home owners.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Houses are pretty great for a few factors

  • Not sharing a wall with a neighbor
  • being able to be louder in general
  • Not being woken up by neighbors
  • Not getting your home infested with bugs because of having a nasty neighbor
  • No loud honking at night
  • Not having your door accidentally knocked on to ask if your apartment neighbor is home when they’re not answering their door
  • Parking in your own garage
  • Having a yard for your dog/kids to play in

Apartments fucking suck in so many ways. I get that they’re pretty handy in City Skylines where everyone bases their urban planning experience from but there is a reason people prefer to live in house and it’s because it gives you separation from other people in a way apartments cannot.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

How does a detached single family home prevent honking? Why haven't you explained to my neighbors they have to stop honking? Because they definitely still do, and it is still a nuisance

Detached homes definitely have many benefits, but they're incredibly expensive. If we didn't subsidize them so much, we'd have a whole lot more people living in denser housing. The US has something like 85% single family homes compared to around 40% in Germany

It's not that Germans are just so much better neighbors that they can put up with shared walls/spaces. It's just not worth the cost of a detached home when it isn't as heavily subsidized (they do still subsidize them compared to dense housing options)

TL;DR - Detached homes are fine, but we need to quit giving such massive subsidizes to them

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