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[–] snake_cased@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago (41 children)

Landownership is wrong all together.

If you think about it, it is completely absurd, why anyone assumes the right to 'own' a piece of land. Or even more land than the other guy. Someone must have been the person to first come up with the idea of ownership, but it is and was never based on anything other than an idea, and we should question it.

After all inheritance of landownership is a major cornerstone of our unjust and exploitative society.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago (27 children)

Every generation, people want to try new things and it's nice. But landownership can and has been and good thing in a way that just going back to "anarchy" wouldn't work. E.g. creation of ghettos, who gets to farm the best land, etc.

So then the suggestions are that the land are owned and "managed" by the state apparatus. Now we have a few famines in history to show us how gaining favor in a political system is not the best way to manage the land.

I'm open to better suggestions but just shitting on land ownership seems easy and unproductive.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the Native Americans didn't believe in land ownership, at least not individual land ownership, more of a communal version, and it worked out well for them. They had huge societies, vast trade networks, and were able to feed themselves fine. It requires a different, non-capitalist, non-Western mindset, but it can work.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Their huge societies in no way are comparable to the population we have today.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Neither was the Western population at the time, but it scaled up fine. There's nothing saying alternative systems of land ownership can't scale up either. The only reason we went with the current one is because it benefited the people who killed everyone else.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Why is it that their population hasn't grown in the same way as people with other views on land ownership, do you think? Is it because the other people were the good guys in your imagination?

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