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Asking after the privacy debacle and manifest. I'm not keeping up closely, but iirc Firefox is the browser recommended because of Ublock. After the privacy data issue I've noticed broken trust from Firefox users, recommendations in favor of switching browsers, and predictions saying Firefox is going downhill fast and that their forks won't be maintained for much longer.

So I'm here asking the seasoned sailors' thoughts, aye. Is this just a storm passing by or are you really considering jumping ship?

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 41 points 2 days ago (13 children)
[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've been trying ironfox but it crashes when i tap "customize homepage"

have you experienced this?

[–] three@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Me too! I'm using graphene, are you?

[–] ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is Vanadium not as ideal compared to Ironfox? I'm new to GOS

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you use android, GOS or not, you are using chromium webview anyhow. So using a Firefox browser is just adding on. There is no way around that issue until a proper non chromium WebView is available (gecko is not). But before that happens we will more likely have decent linuxphones instead of android. Vanadium is way more secure than any other browser , only competition would be bromite, also chromium based. Firefox on mobile is light-years behind vanadium security wise, no excuse for not sandboxing. https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

[–] three@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

According to the devs vanadium is preferred for security, something about Firefox not having comparable sand boxing (?). Not sure, they wrote in length about the reasoning but at a certain point my eyes started glazing over.

I've been using Firefox for a long time on desktop and mobile, so when I switched to graphene I just kept with it.

I may try to switch over to vanadium though seeing as I'm already in "switching" mode.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 6 hours ago

I tried Vanadium when the install was fresh. The adblocking is just not that good... For example, on one of the sites it blocked the ads, but left out the giant HTML elements they used to be in.

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, on graphene.

hmm can't find mention of a bug for this combination. barely even the two mentioned in the same webpage.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm also on GrapheneOS running IronFox and customizing the homepage works fine for me.

[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

maybe it's caused by graphene+ironfox+some other setting or other app

[–] three@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Iron fox was updated over night for me and now no more crashing.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 4 points 1 day ago

I just tried now for the first time and no it doesn't crash when I press "customize homepage".

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