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[–] fakir@lemm.ee -4 points 3 days ago (11 children)

The problem of 'growing big' has to be solved via cooperatives operating in the same markets, not by disbanding the entire system.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (10 children)

That's not a solution, though. Cooperatives within Capitalism are subject to the same rules as other firms, only without firm control of the state. These cooperatives will either grow or die, and you end up at the same necessary point, revolution and Socialism, or barbarism. Centralization is a fact of markets that sustain over a long period of time, ergo we should master those laws to make it as democratic and equitable a system as possible. In other words, Socialism.

[–] fakir@lemm.ee -3 points 3 days ago (9 children)

My brother, I gave you a version of capitalism where workers globally own the means of production. We'll even put measures against monopolization, labor exploitation, and short term profit seeking. Hell even add 100% taxation over a billion dollars so nobody gets too big. You'll still won't like it because it ain't communism.

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With these measures, there won't be a free market, which means the creation of value will be regulated. I don't see why you would call it capitalism.

[–] fakir@lemm.ee -2 points 3 days ago

What is a free market and how will it cease to exist? I can still make any cake and sell it to anyone at whatever price. Free market still exists.

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