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More of a thought exercise/game than anything else. I saw the news that 486 support was getting cut from linux, and I was curious just how cheaply someone could replace a desktop 486 system with something new (provided the device had all the connectivity they needed).

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  1. Device must be able to run linux.

  2. Device should be cheap as possible. A good starting point is probably sub 40usd.

  3. The device must in someway support a mouse, keyboard, display, and the internet. If adapters are necessary for this connectivity, that cost should be included.

  4. Power supply should be included in the cost of the device. (in the case of most SBCs this is just the cost of a USB cable and wall wart)

  5. The device must be new & still in production. I know used devices like laptops would probably have been king here, but I don't think that would be nearly as interesting.

I suspect that SBCs and other arm devices will be the most common suggestions.

I personally know about the Raspberry Pi Zero which can be had for ~$10, and with all the added accessories necessary to make it a full computer (usb splitters, usb power, usb to rj45, storage) it costs around ~$35. Not bad at all but I'm pretty sure we can do even better!

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[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Why must the device be new and still in production? The current devices that are currently in production/new both at that price point (sub 40$) and more expensive (up to 3000$) are consumer grade garbage that will last at most 2 years. They're not repairable, not durable, not built well etc. I personally use a GNU booted Thinkpad X200T /T500 and a GNU booted ASUS KMCA-D8- both running Parabola GNU+Linux-Libre splendisly with the proprietary wifi-card replaced. The cost of the X200T was about 30$ and the T500 was about 20$. I understand that you might not care as much of freedom to get either the X200, X200T, T400, T400s, or T500, but it is important to understand that most of the operating system components you are runnning were made with freedom in mind. If you still don't want to sacrifice performance for a cheap, libre experience, then just get a newer Thinkpad. It's not as libre, but they still could be found (more easily) for very cheap prices. But keep in mind the newer you get the shittier it's going to be. I still suggest the models I reffered to though- esspecially if you want to tinker. You can remove about every component and replace it, and you can replace the BIOS with a fully free bios (GNU Boot).

By the way, most operating system distributions based on Linux as kernel are basically modified versions of the GNU operating system. Richard M Stallman and contributers began developing GNU in 1984, years before Linus Torvalds started to write his kernel. Their goal was to develop a complete free operating system. Of course, they did not develop all the parts themselves—but they led the way. They developed most of the central components, forming the largest single contribution to the whole system. The basic vision was theirs too. In fairness, the GNU project ought to get at least equal mention. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu.html#gnulinux https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just curious but how do you manage to keep the X200T/T500's battery alive? Even my X220's is almost dead by now. Do you have it plugged in 24/7?

[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, I just buy a new lenovo 9 cell battery. I use my X200T for creativity stuff (reading/writing/drawing) and use my T500 for portable more intense work like programming that I would do on the ASUS KMCA-D8 when I'm on the go. I get about 5-12 hours on my X200T and 3-10 hours on my T500, but I do carry a docking station with me, so I can always just recharge easily, but I usually don't use it since the 5-10 hours is more than enough for school bus rides and I don't usually program in a place without a charging outlet nearby. Btw it's important to note that my computer is very minimal since I use parabola open rc edition with dwm to boot emacs, libreoffice draw, and icecat, so if you have a bloated setup then ofcourse the battery life will differ.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

wow.. i have about 70% on my 2012 9cell and get about 2.5 hours with highly optimized config(slackware, power management, governor, brightness etc). 5-12hrs with a core2duo sounds very good.

still couldn't find a proper new battery, hope i score one soon

[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Go to your local repair shop and see if they have / can get you a new one.

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