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Middle school removes bathroom mirrors to stop kids from making TikToks::Southern Alamance Middle School in Graham, North Carolina has taken drastic steps to reduce the time kids spend outside of class.

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[–] doylio@lemmy.ca 93 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (53 children)

Why not just ban smartphones in school? There's ample research now that they're harmful to teen mental health

[–] AccmRazr@lemm.ee 49 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I know a few schools in my area tried to institute zero tolerance no phones rule and the screaming from parents was loud enough that they gave up. One of the big sticking points was because of school shootings. Another was that schools have been bad about getting kids on the bus, that kids are getting lost or even ending up in bus depots at the end of the day.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca -5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

There are better tools these days than blanket prohibition.

The signals that voice and data go over are different from each other, so not all modern cellphone jammers jam the entire spectrum. Some can be set up to allow voice calls over the traditional channels while jamming data. This forces students to use the school’s wifi network for any Internet connectivity, whereupon their connectivity to apps and services can be whitelisted/blacklisted as deemed necessary by system admins.

Ergo, a system that keeps students off of their smartphones while allowing parental connectivity.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because schools have thousands of dollars to spend on high-end cellphone jammers when they can't even pay their teachers a decent wage.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Imagine jamming cell signal then an emergency happens. Oh the liability payout would be massive. And they say schools are underfunded now.

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

I feel that might be an issue from 4G onwards, considering VoLTE and VoNR are intended to avoid the use of a separate voice network to their existing data network

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I proposed a Faraday cage once 😂. But running a jammer would be a good way to get the FCC involved (hint: massively illegal). And if you think dealing with the FCC is fun, ask your local ham operator…

Also they all know how to find proxies or unblocked sites. I watched severely intellectually disabled children teach other out to install VPNs. The smarter ones could install shit like Dolphin and would be playing Pokémon in class.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

How do you only allow parent connectivity without allowing most everything else? Would this require schools to build an app specifically for them to allow through and make parents and kids use that? It sounds awful for everyone involved. A mildly determined and clever kid would probably be able to figure out how to circumvent the censorship anyways, and now you’re back at square one but with a bunch of useless infrastructure to maintain.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most smartphones allow os level VPN, that will get around this.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many VPNs are running on ports that’d be allowed? Schools can easily restrict wifi to only allow 443 through a MITM proxy and 80 (which firewalls can easily inspect and drop TLS connections.)

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You can get VPNs that run over websocket connections.

You can't solve behavioural issues purely with technology.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago

You'll be so popular, with your dictator-like censorship of an organisation! How come no one even treats children like people, you wouldn't find it acceptable to jam the mobile data of adults' phones. Talk to the kids and encourage them to want to work at school, don't be autocratic.

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