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[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Is it really breaking it? As far as I'm aware, it's more like gnu. It has components and you can select what you use (here meaning distros and packagers).

People mistake this for a monolith because it's all named systemd-thing. Integration, like you said, was and is needed. But what if all those separate utilities and services are actually disconnected and speak some protocol different to pipe? Does it make it less unixy?

And poettering is an absolute good guy here. Pulseaudio wasn't perfect, but did it improve things compared to what was there before? Sure it did. Even now, pulesaudio protocol is used within pipewire and it works just fine.

Perfect is the enemy of good. And while all these tools might not be perfect, they are the best in the Linux world.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 months ago (12 children)

poettering is an absolute good guy here

Agreed. But he's also an abrasive know-it-all. A modicum of social skills and respect goes a long way towards making others accept your pet projects.

pulesaudio protocol is used within pipewire and it works just fine.

I wasn't talking about the protocol, I was talking about the implementation: PulseAudio is a crashy, unstable POS. I can't count the number of hours this turd made me waste, until PipeWire came along.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pulseaudio was introduced in 2004. How come it took almost 20y for it to be replaced if it was that bad?

Implementation, being what it is, improved the situation compared to alsa and other things before it. Again, while not perfect it made things better for everyone.

It's funny that this is a thing attributed to poettering as bad since things before were way worse... why not throw Sticks and stones at those people?

I really don't get it.

And all of these things are optional. The fact that distro people and companies select them is because they solve real world problems.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago

Pulseaudio was introduced in 2004. How come it took almost 20y for it to be replaced if it was that bad?

Did you learn nothing from X11 usage? May I remind you that X11 was invented by Xerox in the fucking 80s?!

Bad software attaches itself to OSs like a cancer.

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