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Under the Roman Empire, life expectancy was 50/60 years for the 30/40% of people who managed to survive past the ripe age of 10. Slavery was so normal that even intellectuals could be slaves and the concept of human rights was not even invented yet. It was also possible to die for a wide range of causes including being crucified, eaten by lions in a public show, and being sewn alive inside a bag with various animals and thrown in the river to drown.
But indeed the ecological footprint was negligible so I guess it was better than what we have today according to this guy.
OP is advocating for socialism, not for a regression to feudalism.
It’s not what the meme says, nor the apparent general opinion here.
The meme says that Capitalism did not exists for 99% of history (save for the fact that apparently UK was a capitalistic society in 1500s according to some) and that the world was better without it, failing to acknowledge that besides the many defects, Capitalism also brought prosperity to a large portion of humanity (which according to some here is a bad thing since exploitations still exist somewhere), and that it was partially adopted also in ex Communist countries.
Oh, and apparently any western country is an Authoritarian regime, and China is the best country for the improvement of life quality (no mentions for dissidents, but the US is surely much worse).
This is basically the summary of the whole thread. I haven’t heard so much ideology since the high school.
Are you deliberately being disingenuous or are you really that stupid?
No, you're the only one here that doesn't realize that OP is advocating for socialism. This is a meme attacking capitalist realism, not stating that feudalism was better. You're in the fringe minority with that misinterpretation.
The west is authoritarian in that capitalists have full control, yes, and the PRC is making tremendous strides thanks to socialism.