This is the problem, though. Even when getting paid the price people think they deserve. They tend not to do a great job when it comes down to it. Also some smaller mom and pop shops just can't afford to pay you like a big store could. People don't think about that, though.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"But some people just have a shitty work ethic" is not the counterargument you think it is.

As for the difference in what a big business can afford vs a small one, that's tough. But if you fall behind on the expenses of doing business, you should simply be charging more. If you still can't afford something, while charging a fair (both to customer and proprietor) price, then you don't get just handwave it off and hire someone for less than they're worth.

A lot of "mom and pop" shops stay in business for decades and finally bite the dust because they refuse to adjust prices that should be orders of magnitude higher due the ever-decreasing worth of money itself.

Instead they try to match prices with giant companies, while providing three times better services because they actually care about both customers and employees in a way corposhits "optimize workflows" too hard to even afford considering.

If you're a boutique business, charge like one.

[–] SmokingKinoko@lemmy.moe -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You make a lot of good points. I also might've not made myself as clear since I am at work ATM and trying to type while in-between things.

I fully agree that you should pay someone what they're worth. Just that's the thing. I personally know people who are too lazy to lift a finger and want a office job where they do basically nothing and still expect $20 a hour and if they gotta do anything more it's $50 a hour.

Some people are not a willing to trade their full efforts in return for that pay they desire. Me being one of them, but I at least still do my job and show up to work. I just do my job slower.

That's why I bring up the fact that mom and pop shops can't pay the same. A small shop might pay you the higher price, but if you then don't do the work and they have to hire someone else.... then you're not really WORTH that price. Are you?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Businesses don't have the right to exist, to them it is a privilege.

If they can't improve society, then they should just go bankrupt.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Ok, what kind of bullshit attitude is that?

You don't want to pay people, because some people are less motivated? Yeah, that's your problem as a business. Give them a reason to work hard or stop complaining.

Mom and Pop can't afford to pay proper wages? That's their problem. If other businesses can afford good salaries, why can't they? Maybe their business is simply rubbish.

Think about what twisted Stockholm syndrome you're expressing here. Capitalism is once, for the first time in decades, on the brink of actually increasing the wealth slightly for the workers, and all you can contribute is "yeah, but then capitalists can't properly fuck the workers over and that's just really unfair to the businesses".

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