I think if Texas pulled the trigger on secession, there’d be a few states that joined up with them, I don’t know that it’d be the entire US against just one state. If they seriously went for it, it’d probably be because they thought they had enough strength in numbers.

Unfortunately for them though, Republican-leaning states tend to have lower populations and wouldn’t really be able to provide much help. Florida I guess has a big population too, but not sure how helpful they’d be either with their demographics.

On the plus side though, we could potentially clear out alot of these MAGA idiots in office, assuming we actually started punishing people for insurrection.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s just political posturing.

They don’t have a military. The National Guard units would come under the command of the President of the US, and any units in rebellion would know they’re facing courts martial for crimes that would be career limiting in that the penalties could include anything from life in prison to execution. It’s literally treason by the legal definition.
Even if any significant number of troops were to choose to violate the law, modern war isn’t about riflemen. There’s a massive infrastructure required to keep tanks and planes running, not to mention things like carrier battle groups. Northrop and Raytheon aren’t going to be forfeiting USG contracts to sell missile systems to Ohio.
Only the president has the nuclear codes, so nuclear blackmail can’t work either.

There isn’t going to be another civil war. Too much has changed between then and now in terms of military and economic organization. This is just Texas whacking off yet again, as they did under Obama and Bill Clinton.

The very real risks we’re facing are the election of Donald Trump - this is the biggest threat - and far right domestic terrorism. The former is an existential threat to the United States and should be treated as such. The latter is a law enforcement issue and should be treated as such. I suspect the Proud Boys are infiltrated all to hell as are the other major organizations, but there’s the potential for a significant amount of harm being done on a larger than 9/11 scale, although it’d be drawn out.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Only the president has the nuclear codes, s

try 0000000, that's what it has been for most of the time I believe.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

That’s the combination I use for my luggage.

[–] al177@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Except for that time it was CPE-1704-TKS

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Ok try both just in case

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[–] al177@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

modern war isn’t about riflemen. There’s a massive infrastructure required to keep tanks and planes running, not to mention things like carrier battle groups.

The problem is that they don't need to 'win' to get what they want; they just need to be enough of a nuisance to get concessions from the government. And both Ukraine and Gaza are showing us how effectively a bunch of people with rifles, drones and RPGs can frustrate an army. Sure, a lot of them will die, but I worry that it might be a sacrifice their leaders are willing to make if that means they get to hurt a lot of innocent people.

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