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George Carlin Estate Files Lawsuit Against Group Behind AI-Generated Stand-Up Special: ‘A Casual Theft of a Great American Artist’s Work’::George Carlin's estate has filed a lawsuit against the creators behind an AI-generated comedy special featuring a recreation of the comedian's voice.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (23 children)

I didn’t say this was satire, I said it was in line with satire on a legal front. And why did you ignore the “impersonator” line immediately before it and jump straight into parody?

They sampled his work, yes. To get voice, pacing, image, etc. they didn’t then have it spit out copies, or even remixes of his previous work, they had it create new content and made it clear it was not him.

I don’t see this as any different than an impersonator watching hundreds of hours of his routines, getting into character visually and verbally, and walking out on stage to do their own routine.

In fact, let me just ask directly: would you be taking issue with this if it was a real human, no AI involved, who had dressed and trained to move and sound approximately like the man, and then filmed it and put it online? Would you say that is illegal?

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (22 children)

It is not in any way in line with Satire. They sampled his work with a machine.

If a real human did this, no AI involved, then that human's interpretation of Carlin's mannerisms, speech patterns, and humor would all be much more varied than if that human remixed Carlin's own words and copied his own imagery.

Plus, if somebody came out on stage and started calling themselves Stephen Colbert or Larry the Cable Guy, then guess what? That's fucking illegal.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

It is not in any way in line with Satire.

Oh good, you understood what I said.

If a real human did this, no AI involved, then that human's interpretation of Carlin's mannerisms, speech patterns, and humor would all be much more varied than if that human remixed Carlin's own words and copied his own imagery.

Tell me you’ve never seen a high quality impersonator without telling me you’ve never seen a high quality impersonator. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Plus, if somebody came out on stage and started calling themselves Stephen Colbert or Larry the Cable Guy, then guess what? That's fucking illegal.

No, it really isn’t. Why would it be? Is Carlin a law enforcement officer? Is there an attempt to commit fraud I missed in the middle? What law do you think impersonating a random person breaks?

Not to mention, the title description and opening line make it pretty obvious this isn’t Carlin.

I also noticed a lot of skirting around my question with a distinct lack of a direct answer. So I’ll ask it again: If that was a human who put out the exact same video, and AI was not involved, would you have a problem with it? Because it really seems like you wouldn’t.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember when impersonators, such as Rich Little, used to show up on TV. Their whole bit was the skill it took to do the impersonations, not so much what they said. And I don't remember any instance of them only doing one person. There are single impersonation shows, like a Judy Garland concert, but I am not sure where that falls legally.

[–] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

When I think of impersonator personally, I go straight to Elvis impersonators. It’s a running joke in movies, they’re all over Las Vegas, and you can rent an Elvis impersonator for various events, including weddings, in just about any major city.

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