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cross-posted from: https://hachyderm.io/users/maegul/statuses/111820598712013429

Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

* FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
* Shared/Single Sign On
* Easy cross posting
* Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
* Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago (13 children)

The fediverse isn't over engineered, it's just not quite focused on the right aspects. A federated social network needs to be more like a block chain, where the content is centralized, and the instances (miners) are decentralized. The content is the important part, and with everything being tied to an instance, it makes the content harder to access. You have instances defederating, going down, closing, and version conflicts, all that makes it harder for a network to gain traction.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

You are describing a different thing than what the idea of the fediverse is. Content is collected at an instance and these instances federate. That's why its called Fediverse: people basically form groups, these group federate. It's a social thing, there is trust involved. With blockchain, the idea is that you don't need to trust a central entity.

I think you talk about something like nostr.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It doesn't need to have the full trustless or buring energy for fun, but it does need to be resilient against instances going down, which currently isn't the case.

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What specific edgecase do you have in mind. The fediverse is coping data and is quite resiliant against data loss.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If an instance shuts down everything from it is just gone. ML already ran into dns issues once, if it goes, 20% of lemmy is just gone.

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 2 points 10 months ago

It is not gone. You still have an old copy of the post on your instance.

e.g. https://szmer.info/post/383045

Replaying, posting and making new content is pointless there but the old stuff still stands and it can be read.

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