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No, China is not commiting genocide. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Even with all of the real complexities, though, nothing material measures up to claims of genocide.
https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/china/
While the OHCHR assessment (Aug 31, 2022) does not indicate genocide, its authors are being pedantic. The findings you cited indicate crimes against humanity including reproductive-rights abuses. (click "UN report and China's response to it" then scroll to the bottom to download the PDF) They might not be lining them up in the streets and shooting them, but they ARE trying to exterminate them, and treat them as less than human in the process. Whether the report authors use the word "genocide" is immaterial.
Read the report yourself, you'll see that what's happening is unchecked criminal, inhumane activity directed at the Uyghur population and other predominantly Muslim ethnic minority communities in Xinjiang.
Great, done, stop typing. Everything else is just blatant Motte and Baillie
So your argument is "they are just dehumanizing and trying to exterminate a group of people, and I'm chill with that"? A bold position.
No, that's very obviously not "my argument", but I wouldn't expect you to be above lying and putting words in my mouth.
Well then why did you say the rest of the post of the person you're responding to doesn't matter? You did say that, didn't you? You told them to stop and that their argument is faulty, but didn't deny the actual claims. That implies to me you don't care. If you do care, you did an extremely poor job of showing it by telling them to stop talking.
So if the above is so completely off base, why don't you continue your argument with the poster above?
That's too bad, because neither of those is the case. I personally think your attempt to kill the conversation above with your "stop typing" and again now with this comment is an actually an attempt to hide your head in the sand, but I guess we'll never know.
That is not something anyone here has said, dumbass
Seems that way. Person 2 above said "it's not x but it is y", person above said "you can stop at it's not x" implying to me they are fine with "but it is y". What's wrong with that inference?
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Valuable addition. I ask "why is that inference wrong" and you say "no".
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I was wondering when the homophobia/misogyny/general creep behavior would show up
I like that you didn't even settle on one, you're just like "I don't like this😭😭😭, let me grab a few misc words and chain them together".
I mean, I get it. There's no meaning behind the message so you have to put together several fake meanings and hope they stick.
I'm just used to y'all going "I'm not being homophobic lol, you might be a woman!" So I'm just preempting
Ok let's ignore that for a second and focus in on your homophobia. What precisely about that message is homophobic?
Don't play dumb, referring to the sucking of dick derogatorily is a classic homophobic insult, and when it's not homophobic it's misogynistic
What about that was derogatorily?
And also how is that sucking a dick?
This is sucking a dick, silly: 🍆😯, or 🍆🫦
I don't even know how that can be considered derogatory, it's something pretty much every adult on the planet has either seen or done or received, seems ridiculous to say it's homophobic.
Calling someone a removed is homophobic. The usual "retort" is "but women suck cock too" thereby inadvertantly adding a misogynistic angle. I have seen this line of reasoning a couple of times and I guess grapho has too which is why they went with their choice of words.
But I didnt call anyone a removed
So: what the actual fuck are you guys talking about?
What's wrong with it is it's factually inaccurate, fucking duh. You can stop at "it's not genocide" because that by itself is an entirely accurate statement, everything you said after that is bullshit, and the comment you're referring to was not ambiguous about that at all so you have absolutely no excuse for pretending otherwise.
No, he said everything else is some type of castle. I looked this castle up and it aligns well with the idea that he's trying to shut down the other claims without considering them.
From the wiki:
So he's technically saying that the rest of the post is modest claims which are easy to defend, ie he agrees with Y. (I'm assuming the bailey is genocide and the motte is the claims of ethnic cleansing w/out genocide)
Lol try harder patriot
Another solid argument that gets right to the real point of all this.
Arguments are for disagreements in good faith with people who are honest, you're a lying sack of shit so you do not warrant an argument, cry about it