Wait! Those torrent clients are written with programming languages! We should sue the people who made the programming languages for encouraging piracy!

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And pirates are using hardware to commit their dirty deeds!

Maybe this is how technological society crumbles, one lawsuit at a time.

[–] lea@feddit.de 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's funny that you mention hardware, cause in Germany you pay a set fee for each device (13.19€ for a computer, 6.25€ for a phone) on purchase since it could be used to create copies of media.

I'm just getting my money's worth, officer.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In Denmark it is lawful copies of a media. Problem is that almost all media is copyright protected and it is illegal to circumvent that. So essentially it is a free tax for the organization that represents the artists without any checks and balances to make sure those money actually get distributed to the artists afterwards.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I from Denmark and I have no clue which law you are refering to.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Law regarding fees on drives and the like: https://www.copydan-kulturplus.dk/presse/pressemeddelser/lovaendring-om-kompensation-for-privatkopiering-er-vedtaget-nye-medier-er-omfattet

The law regarding circumvention of copyright measures is part of the copyright law, more specifically §75c stk. 1 & stk. 4:

§75 c - It is not permitted to circumvent effective technological measures without the consent of the rightholder.

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(4). Effective technological measures in subsections (1) and (2) shall mean any kind of effective technological measures which, in the normal course of their operation, are intended to protect works and other subject matter, etc. protected under this Act.

Stk. 2 also creates some draconian rules that basically prohibits you from creating tools that help others circumvent copyright protection.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is not permitted to circumvent effective technological measures

Germany has a similar law and unless it was changed it is legal to circumvent ineffective technological measures which means if you can circumvent it it is ineffective, making the entire law kind of pointless, because how would you circumvent something that can't be circumvented.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 points 9 months ago

The Danish word "effektiv" I believe carries the meaning "not amateurishly put together" so it might be more of a grey zone leaning into illegal still. Some might after all still call a vaccine effective if it "only" prevents 95% of infections against a certain virus and has a 2% risk of certain moderate side effects.

But interesting tid bit as it's also relevant in a Danish context. I didn't know about it.

[–] Krait@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which fee are you referring to? Never heard of that

[–] lea@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauschalabgabe

[–] Krait@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

Danke!

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago

If I can prove that I downloaded a torrent of an AppleTV show on my Mac, will Apple sue itself?

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