I read an old thread documenting the opinions of Lemmy maintainers an the .ml instance. The issue of funding a project with people openly expressing opinions many find distasteful and it being the biggest reddit alternative on the fediverse came up, so here's a topic to discuss it.

What should we do? What are the options?

Answer: No fork necessary, there are Piefed and Mbin.

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 24 points 1 month ago (19 children)

I really don't like this dangerous trend of condemning actions of people based on wether we agree with them or disagree with them.

Because this behavior is at the base for intolerance and strong polarization.

First of all, I want to judge your actions for what they are, not for what your political views are. So Lemmy is good and I like that full stop. There will be better alternatives (maybe already are) and I will judge them without agreeing with their creators political views.

Second, I prefer to discuss and interact with people who have different views and political ideas than me, because that's where I grow my ideas and enforce or dispute them. Enough of the echo chamber where the "algorithm" already places us in every social fucking media.

Kids, it's by enforcing and supporting even the ideas contrary to yours that you grow up. Yes this is annoying and can cause serious brain engagement, but yeah, that's how we progress.

Even fascists or communist ideas. Zionist or pro-Palestine, pro gender or anti woke, if we start judging peoples actions only for their ideas we become fascists.

I was also tought that what you do is more significant than what you say. Judge by actions, not words.

So I don't dislike technology because the guy behind it is a fascist or a communist.

Said so, if anybody thinks that can do a better Lemmy by forking it, go ahead and let me judged by the actions.

[–] jonnylyy@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I totally support what you said. If I don't support someone financially by using his or her product I don't see a big issue. And when reading through Lemmy comments for any given open source project there is at least one comment saying the mantainer said or did something or even a contributer is an asshole or has the wrong political view and therefore nobody should use the Programm. As long as the maintainer try's to make something that more or less follows my views for a open and decentralized web I'm fine. If I think about donating on the other hand I would check if the morals are on the same line

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And you seems to be from a non US instance, it might be related to the fact you seems to be the only agreeing with me.

But yes, at the end the concept it the technology should not be judged by the political views of the creator.

I also agree with not supporting it finacially if that money goes where you don't like.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

People from the US agree with you. Lemmy is just overrun with irrationals who've never learned guilt by association, genetic fallacy, and other irrelevance fallacies are illogical & who've also never figured out that such irrationality is the root of many injustices. They're small minded & contemptible.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 1 month ago

Well, that's true of most internet. Luckly, internet Is not (yet) real life.

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