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As ICE agents surged into Minneapolis, they found actual road ice to be more than a match for their wits and driving skill.

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[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 124 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

I don't see what the big deal is. Go slow and leave plenty of following distance. Fucking duh. They used our money to buy themselves giant 4x4 suburbans and even with every advantage they can't drive in winter conditions? Pathetic

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 34 points 1 month ago (14 children)

A 4x4 will give you extra power. But not extra stopping power. My guess is they assume that they could just drive normal due to this.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Saw a used car with AWD for sale with the ad saying that AWD is better for acceleration, cornering AND stopping in slippery conditions.

I honestly wanted to ring the dude up and ask how it would help with the stopping, given that it's heavier than the RWD version of the same car and they both have exactly 4 wheels worth of braking power.

[–] Markus29@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Manual drives are more common here, when you brake on the engine 4 wheels are decelerating instead of 2 so that could help.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago

No car only brakes with only two wheels. All four wheels are used when the brake pedal is pressed.

And in any case, using brakes with ABS is still better than engine braking without ABS when stopping in any condition, but especially on snow or ice

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But engine braking doesn't stop your car fast enough to even worry about traction much. And if you do lose traction with engine braking, I don't think ABS can help you like with actual braking.

It was also xDrive so the front axle is only powered when rear wheels start slipping AFAIK.

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

pretty rare to engine brake hard enough for grip to become an issue

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Theoretically, IF it's permanent 4wd.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not an expert or anything, but wouldn't engine breaking have the same breaking force (just spread across all wheels) for 4 wheel drive as 2 wheel drive? Unlike break pads, where it's one per wheel, engine breaking will all be running through the same engine.

Still, having it one 4 instead of 2 has advantages, but I don't think it'd be more force.

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