auto closing/suspending stale communities

stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts

staggered new account permissions:

wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.

Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

Curious what people think about this?

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[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

How does staggered new account permissions help deter bad actors in any way whatsoever? There's nothing preventing them from having a pipeline of accounts in aging.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Each comment questioning this assume trolls are from all well funder st petersburg troll farms, I’d wager quite a few may be reactionary basement neckbeards who wouldn’t post the same stuff a day later.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It does not take any funding to create accounts a few days in advance. Automating account creation is probably the most basic step in any troll's toolbox.

reactionary basement neckbeards who wouldn’t post the same stuff a day later.

Trolls who give up after a day aren't trolls, they're users having a bad day. And if they're stopping after a day, their impact on everybody else is miniscule.

On the OTHER hand, as everybody has pointed out, you're badly impacting the new user experience. Bullshit posting restrictions on reddit are one of the worst things they came up with. Let's not replicate all the user hostile stuff they implemented.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ok, let’s take this a notch further then.

These are not just users having a bad day. In some cases these are repeat offenders or agitators who have been banned but want to come back.

There’s already a higher barrier to entry on a lot of instances. Back when I made this account, I had to apply for it, and it had to be manually approved.

On my OTHER hand, there is IMHO a problem with overactive mods on the larger communities. I’m seeing the same mods modding several 1k+ subscriber communities with very high activity, and they are supper trigger happy with permabans. Permabans without warning, without prior tempban, straight up permaban. This will drive a bunch of people mad and drive them to create new accounts on a different instance just to bypass the ban.

This in turn is causing inflation in the new signups too.

But a delay in being able to comment / post for new users would prevent ban-evasion, but equally, I would much prefer that mods can’t be getting such batshit workloads as volunteers making them more likely to be compassionate and not instantly go for nuclear options at the slightest sign of trouble.

It’s not straightforward of course, but I do appreciate the discourse we’re having here.

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