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How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) (ploum.net)
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With Meta starting to actually implement ActivityPub, I think it would be a good idea to remind everyone of what they are most likely going to do.

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[–] paf0@lemmy.world 116 points 11 months ago (16 children)

fwiw, XMPP/Slack/Discord/etc basically solve the same problem that IRC already solved. Software Engineers just reinvent the wheel again and again as everyone loves a green field.

That said, Meta cannot be trusted. They're going to do a year or two of embrace and extend, pretending to be good citizens. Then they will invent some crisis that causes them to want to de-federate, likely that content on other servers is not moderated to their standards or that convoluted features of their extended protocol are not being met. This take seems pretty spot on to me.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Software Engineers just reinvent the wheel again and again as everyone loves a green field.

While somewhat true, this is also a dumb take. Not everyone working at Slack/Discord/etc can work on IRC. They're making competing businesses, not just wanting to re-solve the same problem but wanting to do it with a new code base.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I suppose that applies more to XMPP, but not everything has to be a business, and you don't have to be an ass about it.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're the one being an ass about it, saying developers always want a greenfield project. Tons of people contribute where they can, but we still need a job. So if somebody wants to make a business making a new chat client so they can make enough money to feed their family, well, that's the capitalistic hellhole we've found ourselves in.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And those developers get told what to do. The wheel also gets reinvented by PMs and entrepreneurs who think they can do it better. Sounds like someone is salty about their software maintenance job.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm talking about the new company phase, not the established phase with management. Every company starts somewhere.

I don't even know what you're on about, I don't know how you could see that as salty about anything with my job lol

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