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[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I, a socialist, hate markets. They are simplistic and functional artifacts of the available way to pass information.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So, you would never trade with someone else something you have for something they have? You want to be entirely self sufficient?

If this isn't true, why do think markets serve no purpose?

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you really think all exchange of goods is a market?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Christmas gifts are a market?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

No because I don't give you a gift only if you give me one. It's not a transaction. They are gifts.

...but you turned it into a semantic point. If I farm sheep and you bake bread, it's a market when I trade you wool for bread. If trade even as basic as this can't occur then you're relying on everyone to be self-sufficient.

The alternative is you're expecting everyone to put everything they produce into a kitty which is distributed to all, and I think that is a sure fire recipe for everyone to go hungry and for society to stagnate. There's little incentive to be productive, and no incentive to be inventive.

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