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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (16 children)

I mostly disagree, every time I visited a country and wore the cultural dress, the local culture has been very supportive and appreciative, and I've been able to enter into more interesting conversations because I'm willing to engage in their culture on a more visceral level.

I understand cultural sensitivity, but I have yet to encounter a culture that does not want to be recognized, particularly for their notable and impressive achievements.

Or if their clothing looks f****** cool, like in Morocco or Japan. China. Or the states. Or Vietnam. Or Germany(goofy but still fun). Malaysia.

Everywhere. Everywhere I have talked to people, they appreciate the appreciation of their culture.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

To me, the term "cultural appropriation" refers to things like schools having kids make chicken feather "headdresses" to "celebrate" Native American Day, or wearing a religious symbol in a disrespectful way. Even though people like the person in the post can be annoying, I think it's still progress that we're able to have these discussions, and I think it's too bad that for many people the takeaway seems to be "cultural appropriation is never problematic." I'd take the person from the post any day over someone who thinks they're immune from criticism when they unintentionally engage in behavior that truly is disrespectful.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

No goddamn way.

We've been having these discussions, as far as history is aware, since we started writing things down.

Give me the rebuttal friend any day.

I've been to too many countries, and what you're alleging is simply and practically incorrect.

Cultures appreciate genuine cultural appreciation.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But cultural appreciation is not what is meant by "cultural appropriation." Cultural appropriation is when it's done in a disrespectful manner.

I grew up with some utterly racist experiences in school -- the feather "headdress" and cardboard tipis, the sombreros on Cinco de Mayo, etc.

I wish I'd had someone at the time to explain why that was wrong.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's ignorance, which is different from any sort of intentional disrespect.

You get a pass,as a kid.

You're going to ask, how do I know you're getting a pass?

Go ask anybody from the culture you're afraid of offending if you get a pass for being a child.

It'll be cool.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one person can represent an entire culture though. That's why it's on us to learn how to be respectful.

For example, someone from Mexico might be just fine with offensive Hispanic stereotypes, but that doesn't excuse such behavior. You can't just ask a random person for a pass, like what? Even asking for something like that would be utterly tasteless lmao

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, a Mexican person being appreciative of a random foreign guy wearing a sombrero does excuse your interpretation of stereotypes.

You don't actually need to ask people for passes, that's a silly meme.

You can appreciate someone's culture and they'll talk to you like a human being.

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