Unfortunately in many places in America, if one went to a local professional to seek help escaping abusive parents or a cult scenario, you actually have a decent chance of encountering a professional who is either a fraud/quack with a nonsense degree from a degree mill, or they might just be totally fine with parental abuse or the local cult.

They might decide that the child is delusional (because no parent would ever be /that/ bad, right?) and has unfounded aggression issues, classify them as mentally ill and remand them to a modern day asylum (mental health facility) which are generally staffed by overworked and underpaid employees ... at best.

That kind of thing happens a lot more often than a lot of people realize.

Maybe check out how Dr. Phil seems to have had no problem his entire career sending unruly children to what are effective labor camps in the middle of no where.

Oh and lets just continue to pretend that the field of therapists and psychologists hasnt had a huge problem of uh, becoming sexually intimate with their clients, and lets also pretend that problem is completely solved.

Oh and lets also pretend that mental health facilities totally all attract the most well paid and tenured psychiatrists who never ever prescribe mind altering medication based on a single evaluation of a client in a 5 minute conversation, while the child is likely in a panicked state from either fleeing massive trauma, or being traumatically forced to go somewhere they do not want to go.

It sucks. If you can find a /good/ therapist or what not, they can literally save your life. But if you don't, well, not so great. And a child is not going to be able to recognize the difference most of the time, until its too late.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Well that's shit, no wonder online discussion groups / safe spaces are so popular over there. That does raise a different issue though, the USA-dominated (and consequently often USA-centric) view presumably warps the view of people seeking help from places where they can and should be talking to real medical professionals.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Weighing in for Southern European mental health care, family support and abuse support. Believe me, you will be better off talking to friends or fellow sufferers online or offline than trying your luck in the public system. Pills is all you get here, and prescribed somewhat hit-or-miss after what amounts to a 15 min interview, most of which are spent by the doctor typing your data into his computer.

If you need help for domestic abuse, be prepared for hours of bureaucracy while reliving and retelling your trauma to a host of police and social security professionals repeatedly. Then relocated to somewhere where you receive the bare minimum of care. I was lucky to never need it but have witnessed it, and frankly would consider any offers from unknown van-dwellers before this.

The only way to get the help you need is to research your stuff well beforehand, and then wheedle out of the system what you need by annoying the bureaucrats till they give up.

Maybe some non-Europeans could weigh in with their perspective as well.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Heard similarly bad stories from Scandinavia, of all places. If you're vulnerable, it's very easy to fall between the cracks, with doctors who abuse their power or make bad mistakes.

Also, the replication crisis really undermines psychology's claims to scientific knowledge.

Of course, I'm not a scientologist, so I'm not going to claim that people shouldn't go to see a mental health professional. Anti-depressants do work, therapy can and often does work, but as you say you really need to do your resaerch beforehand, and preferably have family or friends to defend your interests. Otherwise you'll fall between the cracks just when you're at your most vulnerable.

Same goes for elderly homes. Personally, I think I'll kill myself before I ever get that far. If you don't have family to check up on you, you're quite likely to be neglected, exploited or abused.

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