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I can see some minor benefits - I use it for the odd bit of mundane writing and some of the image creation stuff is interesting,, and I knew that a lot of people use it for coding etc - but mostly it seems to be about making more cash for corporations and stuffing the internet with bots and fake content. Am I missing something here? Are there any genuine benefits?

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (10 children)

They are the greatest gift to solo-brainstorming that I've ever encountered.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago (9 children)

The fruit of those brainstorming sessions are like Homer Simpson designing a new car.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're confusing brainstorming with content generation. LLMs are great for brainstorming: they can quickly churn out dozens of ideas for my D&D campaign, which I then look through, discard the garbage, keep the good bits of, and riff off of before incorporating into my campaign. If I just used everything it suggested blindly, yeah, nightmare fuel. For brainstorming though, it's fantastic.

[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. It can generate those base-level ideas much faster and worth higher fidelity than humans can without it, and that can see us at the hobby level with DND, or up at the business level with writers rooms and such.

The important point is that you still need someone good at making the thing you want to look at and finish the thing you're making, or you end up with paintings with too many fingers or stories full of contradictions

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Any kid who uses it to craft their campaign is lazy and depriving themselves of a valuable experience, any professional who uses it to write a book, script, or study is wildly unethical, and both are creating a much much worse product than a human without reliance on them. That is the reality of a model who at 100% accuracy would be exactly as flawed as human output, and we're nowhere near that accuracy.

[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But the point is that you don't use it to make the campaign or write the book. You use it as a tool to help yourself make a campaign or write a book. Ignoring the potential of ai as a tool is silly just because it can't do the whole job for you. That would be a bit like saying you are a fool for using a sponge when washing because it will never get everything by itself...

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I get it now! You don't use it for the thing you use it for but instead as a tool to create the thing that you've used it for for yourself because the magic was inside all of us but also the GPT all along. /sarcasm

[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

"don't feed the trolls," they said, but did she ever listen?

No, I guess I didn't...

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would retort that the exact opposite is true, that content generation is the only thing LLMs are good at because they often forget the context of their previous statements.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think we're saying the same thing there: LLMs are great at spewing out a ton of content, which makes them a great tool for brainstorming. The content they create is not necessarily trustworthy or even good, but it can be great fuel for the creative process.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My stance is that spewing out a ton of flawed unrelated content is not conducive to creative good content, and therefor LLM is not useful for writing. That hasn't changed.

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