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Anon experiences Joe Rogan (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 181 points 9 months ago (50 children)

As a Stonemason, this shit always bothers me. Recent example was an article on stone henge. "Scientists still mystified as to how the stones were stood so that to caps were level!"

Mfr! Give me a straight piece of wood, a length of string and a rock, I will make you a basic level. Don't want to lift the stone in and out multiple times to adjust the level? Get logs and cut them to the same length as the upright stones. It's not fucking rocket surgery!

[+] burgersc12@mander.xyz -6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (19 children)

The thing is, its not about a single rock being precise. Its a 2 million ton monument that we are told is a tomb that was built in like 20 years. Thats about 1.7 million pounds per day, every day. It would take our trucks a fucking insane amount of time just dragging it into position, how did they have the time to cut it as well? For a tomb??? Somehow I feel we are not being told the whole story here...

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

From britishmuseum.org:

Scientific dating techniques and painstaking archaeological research undertaken around the monument over the last few decades have brought the timeline of the site into focus. It is not possible to talk about 'one' Stonehenge – the monument was built, altered, and revered for over 1,500 years. That is equivalent to around 100 generations – it is worth pausing to let the sheer length of time sink in!

From Wikipedia:

There is little or no direct evidence revealing the construction techniques used by the Stonehenge builders. Over the years, various authors have suggested that supernatural or anachronistic methods were used, usually asserting that the stones were impossible to move otherwise due to their massive size. However, conventional techniques, using Neolithic technology as basic as shear legs, have been demonstrably effective at moving and placing stones of a similar size.[48] The most common theory of how prehistoric people moved megaliths has them creating a track of logs which the large stones were rolled along.[49] Another megalith transport theory involves the use of a type of sleigh running on a track greased with animal fat.[49] Such an experiment with a sleigh carrying a 40-ton slab of stone was successfully conducted near Stonehenge in 1995. A team of more than 100 workers managed to push and pull the slab along the 18-mile (29 km) journey from the Marlborough Downs.[49]

Each stone weights around 25 tons and I found this helicopter that can carry 33 tons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53E_Super_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53E). So we could easily build this today. Probably wouldn't take long at all.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What? First i am not arguing that we could not do it. Second stonehenge and the great pyramid are completely different levels of complexity. Third, i know machinery can lift heavy things, the point is even with machines its difficult to do this stuff. How'd they get by with zero machines? In the timeframe mentioned above? For what purpose

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This fragment explains how they could have done it:

The most common theory of how prehistoric people moved megaliths has them creating a track of logs which the large stones were rolled along.[49] Another megalith transport theory involves the use of a type of sleigh running on a track greased with animal fat.[49] Such an experiment with a sleigh carrying a 40-ton slab of stone was successfully conducted near Stonehenge in 1995. A team of more than 100 workers managed to push and pull the slab along the 18-mile (29 km) journey from the Marlborough Downs.[49]

My point was that it's not difficult with modern machines at all. But it can also be done with the methods described above. Especially if you work on it for 1500 years.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Building a heli is easy? Also rolling 30 tons for the fun of it is not something people usually do

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Maybe they did it to summon the aliens. Or maybe for the same reason we build expensive churches. Like this one that we have been building for 142 years and it's still unfinished: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia

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