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which linux phone is the most promising? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It's getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I'm following postmarket but I'm not sure if they are the most promising. What's your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don't want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 47 points 9 months ago (47 children)

Tbh GrapheneOS.

Android is Linux.

And unlike desktop Linux it was able to spread secure and private standards

  • every app is sandboxed, not some opt-in like Flatpak
  • apps start with no permissions (or at least very little), everything is opt-in
  • it is like 99% unbreaking, immutable, it just always works while my desktop Linux broke all the time
  • there is a webview, which can be hardened. Not Electron, which is insecure and bloated
  • energy saving etc work like a charm. 1% battery loss over an entire night!
  • hardware security with trusted element is decades ahead of desktop Linux (Ubuntu is just now getting TPM encryption support)
  • it is a unified platform, with tons of apps, many of them essential (as the platform is so secure), like 2FA, Banking, public services etc. you can have a full FOSS phone though

I am sure excited for other operating systems but they are just toys. GrapheneOS does amazing work that is a 100% alternative today, for real phones with normal prices, good performance and outstanding security.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

This comment is GrapheneOS propaganda making its way into Lemmy. Ban these 4chan tier advertisers.

AOSP with rebranded features is not doing anything over AOSP or LineageOS.

  • Every app on Android is sandboxed
  • there is no immutability thing with Android
  • WebView already runs sandboxed by default on Android in general
  • energy saving is dependent on phone chips and not this scam Android distro
  • closed source hardware is the same as Intel ME/AMD PSP and not a "trusted element"
  • Android is unified, there is nothing unique about this scam distro

GrapheneOS is pure snake oil with a disgusting sole developer that believes in pushing corporate Big Tech propaganda, harassing and witch hunting any critics, having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this, abuses mentally challenged by hiding behind "autism" label (Louis Rossmann has a nice video), falsely claims he was swatted without giving evidence or coverage in local Canadian media and blames everyone from redditors to community mods to YouTubers and so on.

I covered this disease for about 5 years, and it emanates from the same sewer that "security" clowns like Brad Spengler and madaidan do in Linux community. All they do is either push their bullshit solutions or push corporate Big Tech propaganda and hate any FOSS project they think will not worship them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/ug9qnc/writeup_criticism_of_rprivacyguides_grapheneos/

https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/13teoo9/grapheneos_corporate_foss_loving_witch_hunting/

[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

harassing and witch hunting any critics

You can criticize GrapheneOS just because Micay will care about your words. But you can't do with something like OpenBSD because the developers are much knowledgeable and they never cared your words. They maintain an operating system for themselves and will not develop features to please users.

You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn't good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

No loser, the community is the army. (their quality isn't better than any Calyx or Lineage). The developers don't even have enough time to please user with a beautiful user interface then why they would screaming on social medias like you are doing.

But they maintained hardened_malloc and you never take a word for it.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn't good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

Someone who hides behing "autism" label to use actually mentally challenged as shields on internet is a fucking disgusting person. Someone who goes to lengths of inventing gospel like getting swatted, with banning people asking for some evidence by claiming everybody is a troll, with no evidence for it in almost a year, is not a good person. Or him officially instructing in his Matrix chat to witch hunt any reddit users that criticise his project by abusing JSON and RSS feeds for accounts.

I did not know asking for evidence and making things transparent was trolling. I did not know this.

having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

No loser, the community is the army.

Lost you on this one. You are an unreasonable BSD evangelist with incoherent rantings.

Have a good life. May you gain wisdom. Blocking you.

[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

Can you take some word for hardened_malloc or linux-hardened?

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